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Feb 23 2017

Open Thread


On a tip from Anonymous.

81 Responses to “Open Thread”

  1. ramrodd says:

    all true…but add

    decades of open borders with 50 million invaders in here
    decades of premature/Unconstitutional trade deals that shipped US jobs
    20 trillion in debt and 100s of trillios in unfunded liabilities….
    all done willfully!!

  2. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Just when you thought the government bureaucracy couldn’t waste your money more effectively…
    “The inspector general for the Social Security Administration discovered that a billion dollars in benefits was paid to people who had no Social Security numbers. The benefits were paid to “representative payees” – people who were accepting benefit checks on behalf of another because the beneficiary was unable to manage his Social Security payments by himself.

    Seventeen percent of these representative payees were illegal aliens, according to the audit.”

    In other words, illegals were getting SS payments on behalf of, for example, old people in rest homes.

    That’s government you can trust.

  3. RKae says:

    Next time we start a country, we need a Constitution with 2 columns: a Bill of Rights, and beside it a Bill of Responsibilities.

    Every adult citizen is responsible for his or her own health.

    Every adult citizen is responsible for his or her own education.

    Every adult citizen is responsible for his or her own housing and food.

    Every adult citizen is responsible for the offspring that he or she has been a party to conceiving.

  4. libertarianism is worthless. says:

    I have no more a right to healthcare then you have a right to life both are privileges that can by taken away libertarianism is bullsh*t. the declaration of independence was enforced by bayonets at yorktown not by resoning. same with emancipation proclamation was enforced by northern bayonets into southern belles at cemetery ridge july 3 1863. not by asking slave owners pretty please.

  5. EVERYDAY PRESIDENT ☆ ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ says:

    In other news from DeBlasio’s Mad Mad New York:

    Outrage over food cart serving free food only for ‘black people

  6. EVERYDAY PRESIDENT ☆ ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ says:

    NBC ***IS*** the enemy of the American People:

    Fake News NBC Dear Mr. President Attack AD w/ KIDS!?
    Looks like some of them even know how to read a teleprompter.

  7. sheikyermami says:

    Can’t make much sense of “Empowerment is what the Serbs have in Bosnia”- the Christian Serbs have lost their ancestral homeland of Kosovo and Bosnia to the Muslim invaders. I get the part about entitlements and dependency, but the first part makes me choke.

  8. TED says:


  9. TED says:


  10. TED says: So said our LAST leftist half-wit half-breed president!!

  11. 762x51 says:

    Civil War II update: This was a few days ago and I haven’t seen it covered here, curious.

    Thousands chant ‘Allahu Akbar’ for Farrakhan in Detroit

    Even after the atrocities on 9/1/2001 and again 9/11/2012. there are so called Americans who will chant the muzzrat phrase they use while killing Americans, or anyone else for that matter.

    These scum are your mortal, blood enemy. They are closely allied with the Progressives which has been proven here many times. There can never be peace with either as both groups seek to annihilate you, which is the basis of their partnership. Some retards will claim there can be peace, they are either imbeciles or enemy collaborators.

  12. TED says: WHEN will the LEFT learn it’s much less complicated to tell the TRUTH??!!!!

  13. TED says: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  14. TED says: FOR those of you that didn’t ALREADY know his DEPTHS!!

  15. TED says:

    THEY DID have to reach pretty DEEP to scrape THIS out of the barrel!!!!!!


  17. TED says: AND SHE got his PUSSY HAT dirty!!!

  18. TED says: Oh HELL NO, Our borders aren’t UNPROTECTED….!

  19. TED says: SURE, as long as THEY are collecting YOUR money!!

  20. KirklesWorth says:

    Bodhisattva covered it:

    Bodhisattva: (2/20/2017) Thousands chant ‘Allahu Akbar’ for Farrakhan in Detroit.

    I covered the milder USA Today version:

    KirklesWorth: (2/20/2017) I’m sure he wants them all to follow the sharia party.

    USA Today: Louis Farrakhan slams both Democrats, Trump

    DETROIT — Speaking to thousands gathered in Detroit on Sunday, Minister Louis Farrakhan said African Americans shouldn’t place their faith in Democrats or Republicans, criticizing both parties for neglecting the black community.

    “Most of you are so hurt because Queen Hillary lost,” Farrakhan said at Joe Louis Arena during the final day of the annual convention of the Nation of Islam. “And some of you have cussed me out because I didn’t vote for her. I didn’t vote for Trump. I knew both of them is the same. You ain’t going to get nothing from either one, but more deceit from Hillary, but more straight talk from Trump.

  21. EVERYDAY PRESIDENT ☆ ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ says:

    They break up plenty of families by murdering people..

  22. EVERYDAY PRESIDENT ☆ ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ says:

    Not that I regret that Trump is President instead of some gutless RINO or – God forbid – Hitlery, but I am NOT cool with unelected family members watering down the agenda aid out on the campaign trail.

    A large majority of Trump voters voted for both the man AND the agenda.

    PART and PARTIAL of that agenda were REPEAL of zer0care.. still no concrete action to be seen.. REPEAL of 0bama’s ILLEGAL daca EO and..

    GETTING US OUT OF THE Paris gorebull warming accords.


    I did not vote for Ivanka and democrat Jared Kushner, sorry.

    Yet there they are, stripping out a major pledge from the campaign:


  23. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Just as no document can provide a complete list of all one’s rights, no document can provide a complete list of all one’s responsibilities.

  24. Mr. Freemarket says:

    A right to life is not a privilege; it is a right. You have the right to defend your life. That right must also be defended by the government, if the government is doing it’s proper job. That right can only be taken away through one’s criminal acts and by means of a jury trial.

    Healthcare is a good or service. Goods and services, just like anything you pay for, is not a right.

  25. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Kids attending government schools are being propagandized. It should be considered child abuse.

  26. Mr. Freemarket says:

    “Social Security and Veterans Benefits are “Entitlements” because the people receiving them are entitled to them. They were earned and paid for by the recipients.”

    Well….not exactly. There is only a loose correlation between what you pay into the Social Security program and the benefits you are paid. Many people receive far more than they paid in; others receive far less. It is largely a program of wealth redistribution, where taxes being paid today are going to people who’s money was spent on previous recipients.

    Veterans “earned” what they receive because it was essentially part of their employment agreement when they signed up. Today, many veterans are volunteers; some were drafted into the service.

    No one can opt out of Social Security. Your participation is forced. Unless you are a government worker, or a member of Congress.

    So Social Security and Veterans Benefits don’t belong in the same bucket; lumped together as “Entitlements.”

  27. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Maybe you, too, can get a girlfriend, just like Hillary. I understand Susan Sarandon is available.

  28. 762x51 says:

    Blount didn’t use it in an article, that was the point. All read the articles, except for your little bitch pussyworth, few read all the posts in the comments section.

  29. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Another Branch Trumpidian.

  30. Mr. Freemarket says:

    When the democrats have great difficulty defining “is” how can we possibly expect them to define a difficult word like “fraud?”

  31. Mr. Freemarket says:

    And yet they didn’t swing the election for her. Oh, the ingratitude!!!

  32. Mr. Freemarket says:

    If I had been the grandfather of that 13 year old, a) she wouldn’t have been on a Grayhound bus, and b) he wouldn’t be deported, either. We don’t call returning someone’s remains to their homeland “deporting them.”

  33. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Somehow you seem surprised.

  34. KirklesWorth says:

    Changing the claim, eh? So this is a criticism for Dave Blount for not covering a story that Bodhisattva had posted four days earlier? That’s not very considerate to Dave Blount – implying he’s not up on things. Lucky for you that you use vague claims you can weasel out of like “This was a few days ago and I haven’t seen it covered here, curious.” Most of us would have said “Dave Blount didn’t do an article on” instead of “I haven’t seen it covered here” which most would conclude meant all of Moonbattery including the Disqus comments.

    It reminds me when you said…

    762×51►Auburn Rapunzel: (02/21/2017) Since I’ve never referred to anyone as a “Paulbot”, and I don’t recall seeing that term here, I don’t know who the nebulous unidentifiable group of “you guys” might be.

    …and I produced:

    KirklesWorth►762×51: (02/22/2017) Need some “Paulbot” referernces? Here you go!

    Jack Bauer: (03/23/2015) Ughhh…….who let the Paulbot in ? As for the rest of you: (sarc/on) Don’t you know that Ron Paul and Rand Paul are the only people left in the United States, (because the Framers are all dead) who understand the Constitution….Oh, I forgot! Of course their cult like followers are all Constitutional scholars as well… addition, they are the chosen ones who are privy to all the latest conspiracy theories, that the rest of us are simply too dumb to recognize…..(sarc/off)
    CTsOpinion: (02/15/2016) I never considered Donald Trump a Republican let alone a Conservative. His vulgar vapid pronuncements are those of an assclown. I also wonder about the credentials of his fanatical minions as they remind me of Paulbots, only hateful in this addition. IMO The Donald is a dangerous demagogue and a Democrap at heart.
    Jack Bauer: (05/08/2016) But I have never seen such a collection of endless, junior high school level whining, like I have seen from some of my fellow Cruz supporters, with the possible exception of the Ron Paulbots.

  35. Torcer says:

    No offense, but could you two PLEASE cease and desist with the pointless bickering?

    There are much more important issues to be discussed such as the retreat by the GOP on repealing Obamacare.

  36. Torcer says:

    No offense, but could you two PLEASE cease and desist with the pointless bickering?

    There are much more important issues to be discussed such as the retreat by the GOP on repealing Obamacare.

  37. Torcer says:

    SHOCKER: Yeah, the GOP Isn’t Going to Repeal Obamacare. | RedState


    Boehner: Republicans won’t repeal and replace Obamacare

    Cruz has no patience for GOP’s Obamacare-lite. Calls ’em out at CPAC

    Pence’s CPAC Speech is a Warning to Congress About Obamacare | RedState

    Pence: Democrats’ ObamaCare promises were ‘fake news’

    Republican Murkowski hated Obamacare in 2015, loves it now via @sthomas0311

    How Is Single-Payer Healthcare Different Than Paying For The Police?

  38. Jester says:

    “Bow down before me, kiss my ring, and respect all I say without question while I beat your ass every minute of every day like a redheaded stepchild in K-mart.”

  39. Jester says:

    And stop voting Democrat!

  40. Jester says:

    Wow. This is the best they’ve got?? Exploiting little kids? Sheesh. I guess their viewers are too young to remember the Hitler Youth, or Mao’s Red Guard. Keep it classy, NBC.

  41. KirklesWorth says:

    Request taken under advisement. I provided a simple response of the case where Bodhisattva posted a similar article contrary to his assertion, and he characteristically goes overboard with “Blount didn’t use it in an article, that was the point. All read the articles, except for your little bitch pussyworth, few read all the posts in the comments section.”

  42. Torcer says:

    I understand your point, and it was he who began the altercation.

    We all should keep in mind the larger picture and avoid the small issues. I can quite imagine that I will be in disagreement with the President’s actions at some point but until then..

  43. BUBBA says:

    PJ……………as a native American, I take great offense from your statement. I’m not sure why, but I do.

  44. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Fox News host Tucker Carlson spoke on Thursday with senior advisor for the Democratic National Committee Zac Petkanas about the controversial move by President Donald Trump to rescind the public school transgender bathroom guidance issued by former President Barack Obama in May of 2016.

    Petkanas argued that you are the gender that you think you are. Carlson asks Petkanas to name a single scientist that believes that.

    Hilarity ensues….

  45. TED says:


  46. JustAl says:

    The Serbs were right, we bombed the wrong side.

  47. 762x51 says:

    Those two are full on batscat crazy Progressive A-holes. Their influence will continue to degrade and nullify any positive changes President Not Hillary intended to make.

    As for the repeal of OblowMeCare, the Retardlican sellouts in Congress had six years to come up with a plan to dispose of that POS and did NOTHING.. Oh wait, they did vote 97,658 times to repeal it when those votes meant nothing. They don’t intend to repeal it and here is RINO sellout and Progressive shill John Boehner to explain it for you.

    They are / have been lying to you.

  48. 762x51 says:

    A simple review of the record will show that, like this instance, I put up an on topic, relevant post to the thread. Jerkles then proceeds to clutter the thread with dozens, in some cases hundreds of years old comments I have made. I have tried repeatedly to get him engage in a straight up fight to end this but the coward can only hide behind his keyboard and, as you say, “bicker” like a bitchy ex-wife. I have posted to MB for a decade and only in the last six months has this become a problem, ever since Pendejowirth slithered in from the Disqus sewer.

    The 5th column GOP Progressives have never intended to do anything about Obamacare, all the fake “repeal” votes they took were a smoke screen to deceive their base. This is proven by the fact that they have had six years to come up with a plan so that when they regained power, all they had to do was pass it. Well here we are, they have both houses of Congress and, in theory, the White House. They could, if such a plan have existed, already passed it. None does because they are in league with the enemy. Here it is in the words of one of the most vile of the lot, John Boehner.

    “In fact, when the idea of a full repeal and immediate replace of Obamacare was presented — and endorsed by President Donald Trump — Boehner said he “started laughing.””

    UrkelJerk is a supporter and fan of this scumbag and MCconnell and RyanO and obviously his cult leader and the rest of the sellouts, because they are “republicans”. What good is that if they are going to rubberstamp the enemy agenda, which they did daily for eight years and now intend to continue it?

    No amount of “discussion” is going to resolve this problem because no matter which “side” of the Uniparty is in power, the enemy still controls the battlefield. The pendejo is an enemy operative who came here to start trouble and did so on day one. He is. in fact, the poster child for what we should be discussing, the sellout by the GOP of Conservatives and the American people. THAT is the issue and Pendejoworth is the example we have at hand.

    I have over nine years of comments here which did not start trouble. jerkles has not one day where he can make that claim. You want to resolve this problem, either get him to face me on the battlefield and I’ll take care of it or focus on the issue at hand, the betrayal of America and Conservatives by the GOP.

  49. 762x51 says:

    GFY pendejo.

  50. 762x51 says:

    Say WHAT?!?! Read it again, I didn’t start this or any other “altercation”. His buddy Bodhisattva, has partaken in this extensively in old threads. You don’ have the whole history on this my friend and the professional liar is leading you down the garden path.

    This is a common tactic of Progressives, start trouble then feign innocence when exposed. I’m surprised you would fall for it.

  51. KirklesWorth says:

    What did I “lie” about? But oh yes, by all means, read it again.

    762×51: (02/24/2017) Civil War II update: This was a few days ago and I haven’t seen it covered here, curious.
    KirklesWorth►762×51: (02/24/2017) Bodhisattva covered it:
    762×51►KirklesWorth: (02/24/2017) Blount didn’t use it in an article, that was the point. All read the articles, except for your little bitch pussyworth, few read all the posts in the comments section.

    Yep, I really “started” something, didn’t I? At what point did the “alteration” begin? But yes, you do hypocritically and progressively start trouble and feign innocence exactly as you just illustrated…thanks for that. @torcer:disqus didn’t “fall” for anything – “Fax mentis, incendium gloria cultum,” et cetera, et cetera… Memo bis punitor delicatum! It’s all there! Black and white, clear as crystal!”

    ✔ react with narcissistic rage
    ✔ narcissistic injury
    ✔ cannot shame narcissists
    ✔ can only enrage narcissists
    ✔ unresolved conflicts
    ? energy through tension…probably
    ✔ every disagreement a threat
    ✔ every criticism a threat
    ✔ reacts defensively
    ✔ becomes indignant, aggressive and cold
    ? detaches emotionally for fear of injury…can’t tell.
    ✔ devalues the person (or group)

  52. KirklesWorth says:

    Yep – time to consolidate your comments for the sake of convenience. Let’s see…today’s tactics are:

    cries about his own old posts
    gunfight demanding
    narcissist, sociopath, psychopath
    seniority entitlement
    unable to debate, but “offers” to kill

    UrkelJerk is a supporter and fan of this scumbag and MCconnell and RyanO and obviously his cult leader and the rest of the sellouts, because they are “republicans”.

    1. Prove I stated my support for anyone other than Trump.
    2. Prove anything about a “cult” – “leader” or otherwise.

  53. KirklesWorth says:

    Very progressive, Saul.

    762×51►KirklesWorth: (12/18/2016) I have even reminded you a few posts up that you FAILED to address the topic.762×51►Sherman1864: (05/22/2016) Anyone who reads these will note how you fail to address any facts, instead stating opinion as if it were fact, an Alinsky tactic from a Progressive fucktard.762×51►Hans Landa: (05/19/2016) I notice that you completely FAILED to address even a portion of my original point, like any good Progressive.762×51►Ed. G. Mann: (05/08/2016) Apparently, all that I have tried to explain to you is just too complicated as you have failed to address even one of my points, a common Progressive tactic.762×51►CTsOpinion: (05/03/2016) Old Alinsky “RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.” is about to go into overdrive. Time to expose these Marxist fu762×51►Mexicano: (03/01/2016) No response to the statement, facts or any facts to refute the statement or facts presented. Just ad hominem, the earmark of an Alinsky Progressive.762×51: (03/01/2016) Said the troll who failed to address even one fact I presented. You fucktards substitute arrogance for intelligence then wrap it smugness to hide it. You are a joke, just not a funny joke.762×51►Fiberal: (02/27/2016) The mark of a good Alinskyite is to never address the oppositions points, just go with a personal attack once you’ve lost the argument.

  54. 762x51 says:

    Hereby proving my point that you are only here to cause trouble. Then, like good little Progressive, you whine about it.

    The difference between you and dirt is dirt has a use.

    GFY pendejo

  55. 762x51 says:

    GFY pendejo

  56. KirklesWorth says:

    Funny, you keep making that claim – yet you claim it:

    762×51►Jack Bauer: (02/08/2017) The little bastard came here looking for trouble, well he found it.762×51►Bodhisattva: (01/31/2017) Your new butt boy UrkelTwerp came here looking for trouble, he just found more than he can handle.762×51►Auburn Rapunzel: (01/29/2017) He came here looking for trouble, I’m just providing it.762×51►KirklesWorth: (01/29/2017) Poor little twerp came to MB looking for trouble and found more than he could handle. You know where the door is buttbreath, use it.762×51►ICEvictim: (01/29/2017) He is a liar and a propagandist who came here looking for trouble and found more than he could handle.762×51►TrojanMan: (01/29/2017) I say the little bastard came here looking for trouble, he found a lifetime supply.762×51►KirklesWorth: (12/27/2016) Thus you are only here looking for trouble which you are too much of a coward to handle once you find it.762×51►KirklesWorth: (12/26/2016) But then you aren’t here to add to the discussion, you are here looking for trouble, of course, once you find trouble, you can’t deal with it.762×51►KirklesWorth: (08/26/2016) You want to play the game, asshole, well here it is.762×51►MAS: (04/01/2016) Yep, They are appearing with much greater frequency now. I have had all I intend to take from these vermin. The a-holes want a fight, I say give them one they will remember for the rest of their lives, how ever many minutes that may be.762×51►Fiberal: (02/10/2016) You started this, not me. You wanted a war, you’ve got one motherfucker.

    And here are some more admissions by the trouble maker:

    762×51►KirklesWorth: (02/16/2017) Still with the threat lie, tsk tsk, but I have way more insults for you scumbag.762×51►KirklesWorth: (02/16/2017) I told you jerkles, Civil War is an opportunity to settle old scores.762×51►KirklesWorth: (12/31/2016) I don’t vilify tRump supporters, just assholes like you tinkles.762×51►KirklesWorth: (12/26/2016) Oh, and as I have observed several times already, the list of people who want to kill you is the list of anyone who has ever had the misfortune of interacting with you762×51►Fiberal: (11/13/2016) YOU are who is no longer welcome, and your army of winged Trumpanzees.762×51►Alphamail: (10/24/2016) So hide behind what ever makes you fell like a winner, you still are losing and in just 14 days, i intend to start rubbing it in at every opportunity.762×51►Daniel: (10/22/2016) Rest assured I intend to criticize you swine plenty AFTER the election. In fact, I haven’t even started to criticize you all yet.762×51►Louisiana Steve: (10/18/2016) Back off?!? Oh sonny, you haven’t seen anything yet. I intend to hound you swine to ends of the Earth for forcing America to endure a Clinton presidency. You picked your boy, forced him on everyone, you own him, for all time. Enjoy it, I know I will.762×51►KHarn: (09/28/2016) It is one of the reasons I seek to drive him [KirklesWorth] out of here, he is scum.762×51►tfhr: (09/01/2016) You must see by now that this country is teetering on the brink of civil war, it is inevitable now. I intend to force that reality down their miserable throats every day they persist in trying to destroy MB.762×51►KirklesWorth: (07/29/2016) Yours is the objective of any true Progressive, to spread dissent, fear, conflict and hatred. Well, you wanted a war, you little prick, I intend to give you one.762×51►Tom: (05/21/2016) I’m very familiar with the Alinsky Rules, we have seen progtard assholes like you use them almost constantly for decades. I intend to expose you at every turn, you will never be rid of me.762×51►Tom: (05/14/2016) Angry doesn’t begin to describe how I feel about you assholes, you are despicable and have earned the browbeating I intend to administer every time your boy sells us down the river which will be often.762×51: (05/04/2016) You Trumpette ass suckers are in for some serious ridicule as your boy shows everyone exactly who is. There are going to be many more of these “announcements” between now and November and I intend to stick my thumbs in your eyes to the second knuckle on every single one of them.762×51►CTsOpinion: (05/03/2016) The Trumpanzees will be howling at the moon now. They have no idea the level of ridicule I intend to unleash on them as their boy begins to show his real stripes and Progressive ideology.762×51: (05/01/2016) Own it scumbags because, like Mike Lee, I intend to remind you of it every day for the rest of my life.762×51►MAS: (04/01/2016) Yep, They are appearing with much greater frequency now. I have had all I intend to take from these vermin. The a-holes want a fight, I say give them one they will remember for the rest of their lives, how ever many minutes that may be.

  57. KirklesWorth says:

    Resorting to illegal immigrant speech? My how the mighty have fallen. But then again, when you have nothing and have proven to go against almost every one of your demands of others, it’s not surprising. Fortunately, I’ve already addressed your progressive Alinsky tactics here.

  58. Torcer says:

    Could you at least acknowledge the point I’m trying to make?

    There are far more important issues to discuss.

  59. Torcer says:

    I’m referring to the pointless bickering.

  60. Torcer says:

    I would prefer it if everyone could please put their time and energy into something constructive.

  61. KirklesWorth says:

    Yeah, I can post more stuff when I’m not playing defense.

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