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Oct 08 2017

Open Thread

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On a tip from cieran58.




53 Responses to “Open Thread”

  1. Floridian says:

    Liberals want to ban gun ownership for law-abiding citizens, but they don’t want a border wall or any effective border control. That means illegal guns would flow north from Mexico, just like drugs and illegal aliens do. So, in addition to the government, all kinds of criminal would still have guns, and many of those criminals would be illegal aliens themselves. Individuals who rob and murder would have little to lose by also disobeying the gun laws.

    Liberals are evil cockroaches.

  2. MAS says:

    Why would you want to denigrate cockroaches like that?

  3. cieran58 says:

    Oh my. Had to visit the you tube to determine this …thing was not a badly produced parody. It seem to have been produced with the same talent and skills as Mr Wu’s “game” Revolution 60. Isn’t that special! John Walker Flynt (its real name) should stick to producing failed video games and whining about “misogyny”

  4. George Lortz says:

    As Bugs says, what a maroon !

  5. Bodhisattva says:

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/oct/8/trump-send-70-point-immigration-enforcement-list-c/

    Trump unveils new strict 70-point immigration enforcement plan
    Calls for comprehensive rewrite of laws to stiffen border and interior, cut chain migration

    Determined to finally solve illegal immigration, the White House submitted a 70-point enforcement plan to Congress Sunday proposing the stiffest reforms ever offered by an administration — including a massive rewrite of the law in order to eliminate loopholes illegal immigrants have exploited to gain a foothold in the U.S.
    The plans, seen by The Washington Times, include President Trump’s calls for a border wall, more deportation agents, a crackdown on sanctuary cities and stricter limits to chain migration — all issues the White House says need to be part of any bill Congress passes to legalize illegal immigrant “Dreamers” currently protected by the Obama-era deportation amnesty known as DACA.
    But the plans break serious new ground on the legal front, giving federal agents more leeway to deny illegal immigrants at the border, to arrest and hold them when they’re spotted in the interior, and to deport them more speedily. The goal, the White House said, is to ensure major changes to border security, interior enforcement and the legal immigration system.
    “Anything that is done addressing the status of DACA recipients needs to include these three reforms and solve these three problems,” a senior White House official told The Times. “If you don’t solve these problems then you’re not going to have a secure border, you’re not going to have a lawful immigration system and you’re not going to be able to protect American workers.”

  6. Bodhisattva says:

    Well he was a moonbat, alright…

    The Vegas shooter boasted about his bank-robber father, saying that ‘the bad streak is in my blood’ and ‘I was born bad’. Benjamin was nicknamed ‘Big Daddy’, ‘Chromedome’ and ‘Old Baldy’ and described by FBI agents hunting him as ‘psychopathic, armed and dangerous’. Benjamin was captured in Las Vegas in 1960 – then escaped and lived on the run for a decade.

    He was described as psychopathic, armed and dangerous and suicidal – and the public were told not to approach the man known as ‘Chromedome’ and ‘Old Baldy’.
    The shooter was just seven years old and living in Arizona when his father Benjamin was nabbed by the FBI for a series of bank robberies.
    At the time his mother tried desperately to shield her young son and his three siblings from the devastating news that their father was living a double life as a bank robber and con-man.

    The shooter would often rant about conspiracy theories including how 9/11 was orchestrated by the US government.

    He would spend hours drinking and gambling and was described as ‘paranoid’ and ‘obsessive’.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4959970/Vegas-prostitute-says-Stephen-Paddock-enjoyed-violent-sex.html

  7. Bodhisattva says:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4961720/NeNe-tells-heckler-hopes-gets-raped-Uber-driver.html

    RHOA star NeNe Leakes tells a female heckler she ‘hopes she gets raped by an Uber driver’ on her way home
    NeNe Leakes told heckler that she hoped she would get raped by her Uber driver

    Real Housewives of Atlanta star NeNe Leakes told a female heckler that she ‘hoped she would get raped by her Uber driver’ on her way home from the comedian’s show in Oakland.
    Video of the vile comments were shared to Facebook by a member of the audience.
    ‘So NeNe Leakes comes to Oakland at the Paramount, gets BOO’d then tells woman in crowd “she hopes the Uber driver that picks her up RAPES her” WOW. This is a prime example as to why EVERYBODY is NOT a comedian,’ the Facebook user wrote.

    The RHOA star also got into a social media spat with Kim Zolciak’s daughter, Brielle Biermann, last week.
    Leakes was outraged about a Snapchat video Biermann took at her new home that was critical of a bathroom and showed a large bug.
    Biermann was shown in the Snapchat video squatting while trying to take a selfie in the bathroom.
    She wrote in the caption: ‘when u gotta get down on the floor to see ur self bc this bathroom has no mirrors besides the sink lmao’.
    The video then showed the bathroom sink and a close-up of an insect crawling along the floor.

  8. StephaneDumas says:

    I saw that one via VoxDay’s blogpost about Harvey Weistein. http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=57475

  9. Anonymous says:

    Mexico– where the elite live in gated communities and only the gov’t and criminals have guns (what’s not for progressives to love?).
    https://tarpon.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/44975_439661496089402_70892775_n.jpg

  10. Anonymous says:

    Europe, as progressive left/libtards think we should be like… http://bloviatingzeppelin.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Gun-Control-European-Style.jpg

  11. Eddie_Valiant says:

    Bakeries are forced to bake wedding cakes for same sex couples. When a gay coffee shop owner finds out there are Christians in his shop – well, the rules all change.

    I’ve believed for a long time homosexuals have a serious brain defect. Any questions? Just watch the video. Posted on Youtube on October 8 2017.

    https://youtu.be/n4StFZnpCa8

  12. Torcer says:

    By KirklesWorth’s ‘logic’, someone could make any kind of farcical implication and then Demand someone disprove it.
    FOR EXAMPLEone could claim that someone is a Russian whose sole purpose is spend an inordinate amount of time to sowing chaos and dissension in the American electorate…
    And then DEMAND that they disprove the accusation.

    Again, YOU made the accusation, YOU have to Prove it.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bb60e5a05beb926a2ad62899900d1bf5a4a92bda33e7dedb026803ee67a1c448.jpg

    KirklesWorth
    No, the burden of proof is on you when you said…

    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/11/2016) Did you miss the part where I said I hadn’t decided yet?

    …you actually did have a candidate and just lied about it. But assuming you were true to your word and didn’t have a candidate, somehow you had a plan using this non-existing candidate to defeat Hillary. Actually, your plan was to defeat Trump and have Hillary win by default.
    http://moonbattery.com/?p=88560#comment-3554148381

    BTW, did anyone every tell you the American aphorism that if you find yourself in a hole – Stop Digging!

    Does it even understand the basics logic and reasoning?

    One could have more than one option in a particular situation and hadn’t decided between them, thus said person had some selections in mind but hadn’t finalized them yet.

    Another example: Say if one is trying to decide where to go out to dinner and they hadn’t decided between Jax Fish House or Lucile’s yet.

    In that case it would be a LIE to say they didn’t have a restaurant to go to…

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b97ed8a85a7d8df1e9a1b1ee1b101a3ba7a87a7f3f28a304310ddfdb5d23ffef.jpg

    KirklesWorth
    Hooray! It’s time for another patented Torcer Attack Thread™ against me! Torcer held off for one whole day! This will be the 27th since the beginning of September! 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26

    Isn’t that curious that It’s playing it’s link & Number game instead of padding it’s response… what is it trying to hide?

    KirklesWorth Since Torcer continues to lie about me and deny the proven and the obvious – that Torcer had no candidate and therefore no plan to defeat Hilary,

    And of course it is of course using the tried and true method of accusing the accuser.

  13. KirklesWorth says:

    Hooray! It’s time for another patented Torcer Attack Thread™ against me! 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27. And thanks for setting me up for today’s review!

    Torcer Tactic: Wait and Bait

    This is when Torcer builds up the courage to challenge a statement that Torcer knows to be true by someone in the past. It is important to keep in mind that Torcer will not answer allegations regardless of simplicity – only place the burden to others to prove it – and gamble that they don’t have the wherewithall to do it (I am not one of those people). Torcer will spend large amounts of time to write line-after-line, post-after-post of screed to avoid answering questions that could be answered with a couple of words…such as: “and your superior candidate is…?” (2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13).

    Speaing of which , I started mentioning that Torcer had no candidate and no plan to defeat Hillary on 09/21/2017, 09/26/2017, 09/27/2017, to which Torcer just made copies of my posts and didn’t reply. The first time Torcer made a vague challenge to the statement that Torcer had no candidate and no plan to defeat Hillary was:

    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/28/2017) And now we see it continue the tactic of attempting to confuse the reader with convoluted postings in one difficult to read paragraph. Hardly the behaviour of some who is confident in their assertions and is able to debate the issues

    So Torcer‘s previous comment wasn’t about no candidate and no plan to defeat Hillary – it was a complaint about the “format” of my post being “difficult” for Torcer to read and my “behaviour”. Next, Torcer tries to lay the faux foundation by laughingly criticizing the “substance” of my posting(s). So far, the attempt to denigrate my posts is #1 (previous) “confusing format”, #2 (next) “lack of substance”:

    Torcer►@Bodhisattva:disqus: (10/05/2017) Note that aside from it’s attempt at currying your favor and lying once again, it didn’t actually have anything substantive to add to the conversation.

    In response to Torcer‘s unproven and phony attack, I posted the following proof:

    KirklesWorth►Torcer: (10/05/2017) You didn’t say what my “lies” were. You had no plan to defeat Hillary. You said you had no candidate:

    KirklesWorth►Torcer: (08/10/2016) How’s your candidate polling?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/11/2016) Did you miss the part where I said I hadn’t decided yet?

    I didn’t lie – you did.

    Then the most laughable cover-up lie was made by Torcer:

    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (10/06/2017) Unfortunately for you that is different subject matter and is NOT the same thing as you claim. Again, you made a blanket declarative statement based on information you do not have. Therefore it is false and you are a liar.

    So Torcer‘s lack of proof of my (Torcer‘s wishful thinking for) “lack of proof” makes Torcer the hypocritical liar. Plus, no explanation of what the so-called “subject matter” was…no citations, no links, no context – just pure lying denial. Torcer‘s comment was exactly what I described it was: an admission of no candidate and therefore no plan to defeat Hillary. But that wasn’t enough to get Torcer to stop digging himself/herself into a hole – so Torcer pathetically tried to shame me to stop digging and gambled that I didn’t have any more proof:

    Torcer: (10/05/2017) And of course it tries to deflect from it’s lies by distracting from them:
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (10/06/2017) Actually I have much better things to do that have to deal it it’s lies such as the following where it made declarative statement based on information IT Does not have:
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (10/06/2017) Note that aside from it’s attempt at currying your favor and lying once again, it didn’t actually have anything substantive to add to the conversation.
    Torcer: (10/06/2017) Here KirklesWorth was shown to be a LIAR making a declarative statement based on information IT Does not have:
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (10/06/2017) Here KirklesWorth was shown to be a LIAR making a declarative statement based on information IT Does not have:

    But the bluff was called and the cards laid:

    1. Torcer►TED: (06/24/2016) I have no idea what I may do in November – I will vote down ballot but whether or not I can do that for Trump IF he’s on the ticket is another story.
    2. Torcer►Bodhisattva: (08/11/2016) At this point I don’t have the foggiest idea on who I will vote… I suspect it’s going to what is going on when I step into the voting booth.
    3. Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/11/2016) Did you miss the part where I said I hadn’t decided yet?
    4. Torcer►Noovuss: (08/20/2016) Perhaps – at this point in time I cannot indicate what I will do come election day.
    5. Torcer►Bodhisattva: (09/20/2016) The problem is not just voting – and I cannot indicate what I will do when the day comes around because even now I don’t know – but it’s also a question of Volunteering and donations.

    So it took Torcer over two weeks to work up the courage to claim I was a “liar” about what most people who have been on Moonbattery for more than a year know – that Torcer had no candidate and no plan to defeat Hillary. Others have made similar observations:

    KatherineBranwen►Torcer: (05/04/2016) You know what’s really telling here, Torcer? You’d rather see Hillary Clinton, the Democrat, win. Your ignorant, deluded, malignant hatred of Trump is far more important to you than the country.
    Wewon Bigly►Torcer: (05/20/2016) So your point is what? Get Hillary elected?
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (06/06/2016) Every time you open your pie hole, you prove you are a Hillary plant. No one but a Hillary sycophant could be as stupid as you.
    toheckwithyou►Torcer: (06/12/2016) Spoken like a true uni-party supporter of Hillary.
    Tom►Torcer: (06/18/2016) “The informed choice on who to support ” So you admit you’re pulling for Hillary, then…
    Miss Fortune►Torcer: (07/03/2016) Yeah, vote for Hillary, you will be very happy.
    Walter.R►Torcer: (07/13/2016) Yet with all this, you and the author want Hillary. You pretend to be a thinker and reasonable, only trying to save the country; but you are not. You are just another sneaky Hillary hack.
    Mogumbo Gono►Torcer: (08/05/2016) And IF Trump loses, it will be the fault of all the disgruntled crybabies who didn’t get their way. See, in reality it’s YOUR fault. Your psychological “projection” doesn’t work. If you don’t support the nominee, then you’re just a Hillary head-nodder. (And: IANAR) This election comes down to only one question: Do you want Hillary? Or not Hillary?
    Miss Fortune►Torcer: (09/18/2016) Vote for Grandma then, she will be the Pres of your dreams.
    Alphamail►Torcer: (10/19/2016) You convey yourself as brilliant but it’s arrogance in disguise and people have caught on that you’re a phony and a shill for Hillary – where nearly all your posts would be greeted by cheers at HuffPo – if you’re not writing some of their posts under a different name.
    Alphamail►Torcer: (10/20/2016) Good try Hillary supporter – you change the discourse even worse than she does – you are the voice of leftist Progressivism – your posts match HuffPo verbatim, no questions asked. You now see your left-wing propaganda coming back to bite you in the ass like an electric snake.
    Duckster1964►Torcer: (10/25/2016) My statement is a FACT… You are the one peddling spurious assertions’ and your credibility went out the window when you started campaigning for Hitlery…
    grayjohn►Torcer: (10/29/2016) No your hard work at making sure she will be president by trashing the only sane alternative. Enjoy the slavery she imposes.
    Fiberal►Torcer: (10/30/2016) But KICKING your candidate Hillary when she’s down, even if done by the Blithering Biden, has got to be a good (!) thing in my book.
    Alphamail►Torcer: (11/09/2016) And now you try and join the celebration with the real patriots who voted directly against Hillary by voting for Trump. You are a spiteful ungrateful loser – you by proxy voted for Hillary and her history and agenda, by not voting for the ONLY candidate who had a shred of a chance to beat her. You own your sick legacy – I don’t – and now you want me to be understanding? Bite me………..
    Fiberal►Torcer: (11/11/2016) Oh for the luva….. talk about liberal crap. This is just the usual “reach across the aisle s**t dumped out every time conservatives have a victory….designed to compromise, then capitulate to the dims. WHY — “are” — YOU — here — ………now? Your candidate lost. You lost Go over to Huffpo where you can practice your poor-man’s, pseudo-socratic method on them. And take your TrojanHead sycophant with you. . You’re with her Go.

  14. Talcum X says:

    >>Tosses somes cockles in the ring! Blah, blah

  15. Torcer says:

    By KirklesWorth’s ‘logic’, someone could make any kind of farcical implication and then Demand someone disprove it.
    FOR EXAMPLEone could claim that someone is a Russian whose sole purpose is spend an inordinate amount of time to sowing chaos and dissension in the American electorate…
    And then DEMAND that they disprove the accusation.

    Again, YOU made the accusation, YOU have to Prove it with the specific facts with regard to that allegation.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bb60e5a05beb926a2ad62899900d1bf5a4a92bda33e7dedb026803ee67a1c448.jpg

    KirklesWorth
    Hooray! It’s time for another patented Torcer Attack Thread™ against me! 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27. And thanks for setting me up for today’s review!

    Torcer Tactic: Wait and Bait

    This is when Torcer builds up the courage to challenge a statement that Torcer knows to be true by someone in the past. It is important to keep in mind that Torcer will not answer allegations regardless of simplicity – only place the burden on others to “prove it” – and gamble that they don’t have the wherewithall to do it (I am not one of those people). Torcer will spend large amounts of time to write line-after-line, post-after-post of screed to avoid answering questions that could be answered with a couple of words…such as: “and your superior candidate is…?” (2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13).

    Speaking of which, I started mentioning that Torcer had no candidate and no plan to defeat Hillary on 09/21/2017, 09/26/2017, 09/27/2017, to which Torcer just made copies of my posts and didn’t reply. The first time Torcer made a vague challenge to the statement that Torcer had no candidate and no plan to defeat Hillary was:

    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/28/2017) And now we see it continue the tactic of attempting to confuse the reader with convoluted postings in one difficult to read paragraph. Hardly the behaviour of some who is confident in their assertions and is able to debate the issues

    So Torcer’s previous comment wasn’t about no candidate and no plan to defeat Hillary – it was a complaint about the “format” of my post being “difficult” for Torcer to read and my “behaviour”. Next, Torcer tries to lay the faux foundation by laughingly criticizing the “substance” of my posting(s). So far, the attempt to denigrate my posts is #1 (previous) “confusing format”, #2 (next) “lack of substance”:

    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (10/05/2017) Note that aside from it’s attempt at currying your favor and lying once again, it didn’t actually have anything substantive to add to the conversation.

    In response to Torcer’s unproven and phony attack, I posted the following proof:

    KirklesWorth►Torcer: (10/05/2017) You didn’t say what my “lies” were. You had no plan to defeat Hillary. You said you had no candidate:

    KirklesWorth►Torcer: (08/10/2016) How’s your candidate polling?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/11/2016) Did you miss the part where I said I hadn’t decided yet?

    I didn’t lie – you did.

    Then the most laughable cover-up lie was made by Torcer:

    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (10/06/2017) Unfortunately for you that is different subject matter and is NOT the same thing as you claim. Again, you made a blanket declarative statement based on information you do not have. Therefore it is false and you are a liar.

    So Torcer’s lack of proof of my (Torcer’s wishful thinking for) “lack of proof” makes Torcer the hypocritical liar. Plus, no explanation of what the so-called “subject matter” was…no citations, no links, no context – just pure lying denial. Torcer’s comment was exactly what I described it was: an admission of no candidate and therefore no plan to defeat Hillary. But that wasn’t enough to get Torcer to stop digging himself/herself into a hole – so Torcer pathetically tried to shame me to stop digging and gambled that I didn’t have any more proof:

    Torcer: (10/05/2017) And of course it tries to deflect from it’s lies by distracting from them:
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (10/06/2017) Actually I have much better things to do that have to deal it it’s lies such as the following where it made declarative statement based on information IT Does not have:
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (10/06/2017) Note that aside from it’s attempt at currying your favor and lying once again, it didn’t actually have anything substantive to add to the conversation.
    Torcer: (10/06/2017) Here KirklesWorth was shown to be a LIAR making a declarative statement based on information IT Does not have:
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (10/06/2017) Here KirklesWorth was shown to be a LIAR making a declarative statement based on information IT Does not have:

    But the bluff was called and the cards laid:

    1. Torcer►TED: (06/24/2016) I have no idea what I may do in November – I will vote down ballot but whether or not I can do that for Trump IF he’s on the ticket is another story.
    2. Torcer►Bodhisattva: (08/11/2016) At this point I don’t have the foggiest idea on who I will vote… I suspect it’s going to what is going on when I step into the voting booth.
    3. Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/11/2016) Did you miss the part where I said I hadn’t decided yet?
    4. Torcer►Noovuss: (08/20/2016) Perhaps – at this point in time I cannot indicate what I will do come election day.
    5. Torcer►Bodhisattva: (09/20/2016) The problem is not just voting – and I cannot indicate what I will do when the day comes around because even now I don’t know – but it’s also a question of Volunteering and donations.

    Torcer laughably submits this scenario:

    Torcer: (10/09/2017) One could have more than one option in a particular situation and hadn’t decided between them, thus said person had some selections in mind but hadn’t finalized them yet.

    So when I said “Torcer had no candidate”, Torcer posits that Torcer “hadn’t decided on a candidate” – which is a distinction without a difference. So it took Torcer over two weeks to work up the courage to claim I was a “liar” about what most people who have been on Moonbattery for more than a year know – that Torcer had no candidate and no plan to defeat Hillary. Others have made similar observations:

    KatherineBranwen►Torcer: (05/04/2016) You know what’s really telling here, Torcer? You’d rather see Hillary Clinton, the Democrat, win. Your ignorant, deluded, malignant hatred of Trump is far more important to you than the country.
    Wewon Bigly►Torcer: (05/20/2016) So your point is what? Get Hillary elected?
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (06/06/2016) Every time you open your pie hole, you prove you are a Hillary plant. No one but a Hillary sycophant could be as stupid as you.
    toheckwithyou►Torcer: (06/12/2016) Spoken like a true uni-party supporter of Hillary.
    Tom►Torcer: (06/18/2016) “The informed choice on who to support ” So you admit you’re pulling for Hillary, then…
    Miss Fortune►Torcer: (07/03/2016) Yeah, vote for Hillary, you will be very happy.
    Walter.R►Torcer: (07/13/2016) Yet with all this, you and the author want Hillary. You pretend to be a thinker and reasonable, only trying to save the country; but you are not. You are just another sneaky Hillary hack.
    Mogumbo Gono►Torcer: (08/05/2016) And IF Trump loses, it will be the fault of all the disgruntled crybabies who didn’t get their way. See, in reality it’s YOUR fault. Your psychological “projection” doesn’t work. If you don’t support the nominee, then you’re just a Hillary head-nodder. (And: IANAR) This election comes down to only one question: Do you want Hillary? Or not Hillary?
    Miss Fortune►Torcer: (09/18/2016) Vote for Grandma then, she will be the Pres of your dreams.
    Alphamail►Torcer: (10/19/2016) You convey yourself as brilliant but it’s arrogance in disguise and people have caught on that you’re a phony and a shill for Hillary – where nearly all your posts would be greeted by cheers at HuffPo – if you’re not writing some of their posts under a different name.
    Alphamail►Torcer: (10/20/2016) Good try Hillary supporter – you change the discourse even worse than she does – you are the voice of leftist Progressivism – your posts match HuffPo verbatim, no questions asked. You now see your left-wing propaganda coming back to bite you in the ass like an electric snake.
    Duckster1964►Torcer: (10/25/2016) My statement is a FACT… You are the one peddling spurious assertions’ and your credibility went out the window when you started campaigning for Hitlery…
    grayjohn►Torcer: (10/29/2016) No your hard work at making sure she will be president by trashing the only sane alternative. Enjoy the slavery she imposes.
    Fiberal►Torcer: (10/30/2016) But KICKING your candidate Hillary when she’s down, even if done by the Blithering Biden, has got to be a good (!) thing in my book.
    http://moonbattery.com/?p=88588#comment-3558898294

  16. KirklesWorth says:

    You are a glutton for punishment. Why you demand that I continue to expose that you were a Hillary lackey is beyond me. But anyway…I am hardly obligated to account for every second in your life that you didn’t have a candidate…so get over yourself. I provided five instances where you admitted you had no candidate and gave no indication when or if you would – while you provided zero to the contrary. Here, let me demonstrate how you prove things:

    Torcer had no candidate and no plan to defeat Hillary. Proof:

    Torcer►TED: (06/24/2016) I have no idea what I may do in November – I will vote down ballot but whether or not I can do that for Trump IF he’s on the ticket is another story.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (08/11/2016) At this point I don’t have the foggiest idea on who I will vote… I suspect it’s going to what is going on when I step into the voting booth.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/11/2016) Did you miss the part where I said I hadn’t decided yet?
    Torcer►Noovuss: (08/20/2016) Perhaps – at this point in time I cannot indicate what I will do come election day.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (09/20/2016) The problem is not just voting – and I cannot indicate what I will do when the day comes around because even now I don’t know – but it’s also a question of Volunteering and donations.

    Torcer knew the election was down to two candidates. Proof:

    Torcer: (09/14/2016) So we now have a choice between leftist D and leftist R when we could of changed the course of our nation away from disaster. Thanks Trump supporters!
    Torcer►762×51: (09/17/2016) The most infuriating part of all of this will be that we are ending up with two leftists on the ballot when we could of had a Conservative that would have changed the course of the ship of state.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (09/26/2016) I’m somewhat partial to the quote from Jonah Goldberg who said that this election is like have a choice between two excrement sandwiches only on different kinds of bread..
    Torcer►stone cruiser: (09/27/2016) And we could have done much, Much, MUCH better…. But thanks to the Trumpers we only have the choice between two evils.
    Torcer: (10/03/2016) My point is that we should have not gotten into the ‘binary election trap’ in the first place.
    Torcer: (10/03/2016) If people had taken the time to become informed we wouldn’t be in this ‘Binary election trap’ we seem to always find ourselves .

    Torcer surrendered to Hillary, still tried to take votes away from Trump, and still wouldn’t name a candidate. Proof:

    Torcer►Alphamail: (10/18/2016) Given that he’s down in the polls and is going to lose anyway, why not vote on principle and give it a go with the 3rd party choices?
    Torcer►Stephen: (10/18/2016) Given that he’s down in the polls and is going to lose anyway, why not vote on principle and give it a go with the 3rd party choices?
    Torcer►Alphamail: (10/19/2016) Given that he’s down in the polls and is going to lose anyway, why not vote on principle and give it a go with the 3rd party choices?
    Torcer►Stephen: (10/19/2016) Given that he’s down in the polls and is going to lose anyway, why not vote on principle and give it a go with the 3rd party choices?
    Torcer►Alphamail: (10/19/2016) Given that he’s down in the polls and is going to lose anyway, why not vote on principle and give it a go with the 3rd party choices?
    Torcer►Alphamail: (10/20/2016) Given that he’s down in the polls and is going to lose anyway, why not vote on principle and give it a go with the 3rd party choices?
    Torcer►Alphamail: (10/20/2016) Given that he’s down in the polls and is going to lose anyway, why not vote on principle and give it a go with the 3rd party choices?
    Torcer►Alphamail: (10/20/2016) Given that he’s down in the polls and is going to lose anyway, why not vote on principle and give it a go with the 3rd party choices?
    Torcer►Alphamail: (10/29/2016) Given that he’s down in the polls and is going to lose anyway, why not vote on principle and give it a go with the 3rd party choices?

    Four days before the election, Torcer made this plea. The blame gets cast and Torcer declares the absolution of the NeverTumpers:

    Torcer: (11/03/2016) At the conclusion of all of this, we who opposed Donald can hold our head high knowing that we made an INFORMED choice, you Trump supporters cannot. We will not be responsible for the resulting disaster, Those of you who made the uniformed decision to support him will be the ones responsible. You choose to ignore the information in the media about the man. We tried to inform you that Donald isn’t a Conservative. We tried to inform you that Donald changed parties at least 5 times. We tried to inform you that Donald is an habitual Liar – and projects that onto others. We tried to inform you of the polls and analysis that show Donald Losing in the general election. We tried to inform you that Donald doesn’t care about the 1st amendment. We tried to inform you that Donald liked the Obamacare mandate.

    One day before the election, Torcer made this plea that hardly sounds like a last-ditch effort to defeat Hillary:

    Torcer: (11/07/2016) At the conclusion of all of this, we who opposed Donald can hold our head high knowing that we made an INFORMED choice, you Trump supporters cannot. We will not be responsible for the resulting disaster, Those of you who made the uniformed decision to support him will be the ones responsible. You choose to ignore the information in the media about the man.

  17. Torcer says:

    By KirklesWorth’s ‘logic’, someone could make any kind of farcical implication and then Demand someone disprove it.
    FOR EXAMPLEone could claim that someone is a Russian whose sole purpose is spend an inordinate amount of time to sowing chaos and dissension in the American electorate…
    And then DEMAND that they disprove the accusation.

    Again, YOU made the accusation, YOU have to Prove it with the specific facts with regard to that allegation.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bb60e5a05beb926a2ad62899900d1bf5a4a92bda33e7dedb026803ee67a1c448.jpg

    KirklesWorth
    You are a glutton for punishment. Why you demand that I continue to expose that you were a Hillary lackey is beyond me. But anyway…I am hardly obligated to account for every second in your life that you didn’t have a candidate…so get over yourself. I provided five instances where you admitted you had no candidate and gave no indication when or if you would – while you provided zero to the contrary.
    http://moonbattery.com/?p=88588#comment-3559314970

    KirklesWorth I provided five instances where you admitted you had no candidate.

    YOUR Proof will have to be that specific statement.

    Have you posted that? Yes or NO?

  18. KirklesWorth says:

    Torcer: (10/09/2017) KirklesWorth: I provided five instances where you admitted you had no candidate. YOUR Proof will have to be that specific statement. Have you posted that? Yes or NO?

    LOL! My, my, my…we have the Disqus equivalent of a red-faced temper tantrum! The frustration is palpable!

    Get over yourself – your dictates don’t mean squat. I’ve posted five times you’ve admitted you didn’t have a candidate which is four times more than I needed to show. Murderers are convicted without confessions or smoking guns – just with the preponderence of the evidence.

    And of course I don’t see any denials. Only a small excerpt from my post as well.

  19. Bodhisattva says:

    Like many moonbats, the Vegas shooter had some serious issues he was treating with drugs, Valium, instead of solving.

    Rage, aggressiveness and irritability are among the possible side effects of taking diazepam — better known as Valium, according to a manufacturer of the drug.

    His de facto home was often one of the casinos, where he stayed in rooms that were provided for free “95% of the time.” Hotels often provide free rooms and amenities to big gamblers to entice them back to their casinos.

    He was known to wander around casinos in flip flops and sweat pants.

    He was “raised mostly in California,” attending high school in the Sun Valley section of Los Angeles and college at what would become Cal State Northridge. He worked for a time as an IRS agent, then began to invest in real estate.

  20. Bodhisattva says:

    As Democrats denounce Weinstein, Clintons and Obama stay mum – he bought their silence with his support back when they knew he was a serial sexual predator and I guess his money is still good.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/09/politics/clinton-obama-weinstein/index.html

    But former Democratic Presidents Barack Obama and Bill Clinton, as well as former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton — all of whom have longstanding ties to Weinstein, a major Democratic Party fundraiser — have not publicly addressed the accusations.
    Representatives for the Clintons have not responded to comment for this story, and Obama’s office declined to comment.
    The recent report in The New York Times cataloged accusations of sexual harassment against the filmmaker that spanned three decades. Three days after the report, Weinstein was fired by the company he co-founded.
    Longtime Hillary Clinton aides have been confused by the former secretary of state’s silence on the issue, questioning — in private — why she has not weighed in at all.
    Weinstein has long been a Clinton donor with ties to the political family. Weinstein was one of many from Hollywood who donated to Bill Clinton’s legal defense fund in the 1990s, a Washington Post report from the time stated. More recently, the Clintons rented a home next to Weinstein in the Hamptons in 2015, and Weinstein served as a connector between Hollywood stars and Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign.
    Weinstein raised about $1.5 million from 1990-2016, according to data from the campaign finance-tracking Center for Responsive Politics, and was a bundler for Clinton’s 2016 effort, including at a star-studded fundraiser for Clinton in June 2016 at Weinstein’s Manhattan home.
    Clinton personally headlined multiple fundraisers Weinstein was involved in organizing during the campaign.
    CRP’s OpenSecrets website shows Weinstein was a bundler for Obama as well, and the Hollywood giant visited the White House on several occasions during Obama’s tenure. At a White House event for student films in 2013, first lady Michelle Obama credited Weinstein for making the event happen and praised him as a wonderful person and a good friend.
    Former Vice President Joe Biden, who has been outspoken on the issue of sexual assault, also has not appeared to make any public statements about Weinstein since the report came out, and the Biden Foundation did not immediately respond to CNN’s request for comment.

  21. Bodhisattva says:

    http://nypost.com/2017/10/09/un-worker-pulls-diplomatic-immunity-card-over-groping-allegations/

    UN worker pulls diplomatic immunity card over groping allegations

    A Sudanese man who groped a woman in a Manhattan bar early Sunday and then tried to give cops the slip when they questioned him about it got off scot free — because he’s a diplomat, according to police sources.

    Hassan Salih, 36, grabbed the 23-year-old victim’s butt and breast while dancing at Third Avenue’s Bar None around 2:25 a.m., sources said.

    The woman complained to a bouncer about the pervy patron, so the bouncer detained Salih until police could arrive.

    But while cops were interviewing Salih and his victim, the man tried to run, so cops cuffed him and put him in a police cruiser, sources said.

    But Salih pulled his diplomatic immunity card, and was allowed to go free after investigators confirmed he works for the United Nations.

    The website for the Sudanese Mission to the UN lists Salih as a “second officer” — a mid-level position requiring five to 10 years of experience, according to the international group.

    In May, he was selected to represent Sudan on a UN committee that oversees non-governmental human rights groups, according to UN Watch.

    Apparently he’s arguing for recognition of a “human right” to grope women?

  22. Bodhisattva says:

    Buried in a slew of headlines was this one about Merkel finally coming to her senses… perhaps:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/09/world/europe/germany-merkel-refugees.html

    Germany’s Angela Merkel Agrees to Limits on Accepting Refugees

    Chancellor Angela Merkel has agreed to limit the number of asylum seekers allowed to enter Germany each year to 200,000, a concession to her Bavarian partners as she tries to form a government after losing seats to the far right in elections last month.

    Ms. Merkel angered many German voters with her willingness in 2015 to let in anyone who could reach the country, which resulted in the arrival of more than a million people. Some voters responded by propelling the far-right party Alternative for Germany — known by its German initials, AfD — into Parliament last month, with support coming from people who had previously stayed home and from Ms. Merkel’s conservative bloc, especially its Bavarian branch, the Christian Social Union.

    After hours of talks on Sunday that dragged into the night, Ms. Merkel’s Christian Democratic Union and the Christian Social Union also agreed to provisions allowing the 200,000 limit to fluctuate depending on circumstances.

    As you can see, just like our debt “limit” it’s no limit at all, as it appears that it will be allowed “to fluctuate depending on circumstances.”

    Typical moonbat, making promises that don’t mean anything.

  23. Bodhisattva says:

    WHEN MOONBATS ATTACK… OTHER MOONBATS!

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/09/dianne-feinstein-primary-challenge-ro-khanna-243605

    Hours after Dianne Feinstein announced she will run for re-election next year, a prominent California Democratic representative urged primary challengers to unseat the four-term senator.

    Her age is one factor – she’s now the oldest Senator. But more of a motivation is she’s not seen as far enough left, apparently.

  24. Bodhisattva says:

    Sexually harassed women may be “asking for it” by dressing seductively.

    No, seriously, that’s what a moonbat is saying in the Weinstein case and there’s plenty of evidence to back that notion up, apparently.

    You look at everything all over the world today and how women are dressing and what they are asking by just presenting themselves the way they do. What are they asking for? Trouble,” said fashion designer Donna Karan in a red-carpet interview at the CinéFashion Film Awards in LA.

    “To see it here in our own country is very difficult, but I also think how do we display ourselves? How do we present ourselves as women? What are we asking? Are we asking for it by presenting all the sensuality and all the sexuality?”

    The DKNY founder, who is friends with Weinstein’s wife, fashion designer Georgina Chapman, described the couple as “wonderful people,” adding: “Harvey has done some amazing things.”

    Asked if Weinstein had been “busted,” she reportedly smiled and told the paper, “I don’t think it’s only Harvey Weinstein.”

    Not only Weinstein. I don’t THINK that, I KNOW that!

    http://pagesix.com/2017/10/09/donna-karan-defends-pal-weinstein-says-harassed-women-may-be-asking-for-it/

  25. Bodhisattva says:

    WHEN MOONBATS ATTACK… OTHER MOONBATS!

    Gay Porn Kingpin Michael Lucas: Muslim Homophobia Becoming ‘Very Inconvenient’ for Liberals

    http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2017/10/09/exclusive-gay-porn-kingpin-muslim-homophobia-becoming-inconvenient-liberals/

    Homophobia in the Muslim world is “becoming very inconvenient for liberals because liberals are apologists for Islam,” Michael Lucas, a gay pornographic film star and director, charged in a radio interview Sunday.
    Lucas slammed liberals for being largely silent amid increasing reports of gay people being persecuted in the Muslim world. And he said that he has noticed a trend in which the left-wing focuses on a specific country’s leadership instead of “political Islam” when attributing blame for anti-gay policies and actions.

    Lucas said he is noticing a trend in which more and more “gays are leaving their base and the party line because the party line is ‘Islam is a good thing. Islam is our friend.’”

    Lucas is the founder and CEO of Lucas Entertainment, New York’s largest gay adult film company and one of the biggest gay porn production companies in the world.

  26. Bodhisattva says:

    It’s come to this:

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/10/09/daily-mail-steve-bannon-back-primary-challengers-every-incumbent-gop-senator-except-cruz/

    Steve Bannon to Back Primary Challengers Against Every Incumbent GOP Senator Except Cruz

    Nikki Schwab of the Daily Mail reports that Breitbart News Executive Chairman Stephen K. Bannon will support populist challengers over establishment incumbents in seven out of eight Republican Senate primaries for the 2018 midterm election cycle. The only exception: Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX).

    Bannon’s main aim is to elect enough pro-Trump GOP senators to oust Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., who he’s largely blamed for the president’s early stumbles with Congress, casting the Kentuckian as an elitist looking down at Trump’s working class base.

    In 2018, Democrats are left defending 23 Senate seats, while Republicans only have to guard eight.

    Bannon won’t touch Cruz, NBC News said, though plans to help field candidates for the other seven seats, including finding a suitable replacement for Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn, who already announced his retirement – before publicly feuding with the president in recent days.

  27. Bodhisattva says:

    https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/convicted-rapist-awarded-joint-custody-victims-lawyer-says

    Convicted rapist in Michigan awarded joint custody​, victim’s lawyer says
    Mother fears man she says raped her will be allowed parental time with her son

    A judge in Sanilac County has awarded joint legal custody to a man who raped a young girl, the victim’s attorney said.

    She was just 12 at the time and now has an 8-year-old boy.

    The convicted rapist and biological father was not on the child’s birth certificate. With joint legal custody, he could have input in decisions regarding the boy’s education, religion and medical issues. He could also end up having the right to spend time with the child.

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  29. Torcer says:

    Once again, Everyone please note that ‘KirklesWorth’ doesn’t actually answer the question…

    KirklesWorth But anyway…I am hardly obligated to account for every second in your life

    Actually, YOU ARE since you made that claim.
    If you cannot, you will have been shown to be a Liar.

    KirklesWorth I provided five instances where you admitted you had no candidate

    Where did I state that?
    Again, you made a blanket declarative statement based on information you do not have.
    Therefore it is false and you are a liar.

    Again, YOU made the claim:
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b0eb951db7bc79899f2ec41bb3239994c520efa30d3883909cedadaff05b82bd.jpg
    You have to back it up with information you do not have, but your projection is rather interesting, to say the least…

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