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Aug 17 2012

Open Thread

obama divider

Via Hope n’ Change, on a tip from Shawn.

43 Responses to “Open Thread”

  1. TED says:

    Dr. Sam Vaknin is an Israeli psychologist. Interesting view on our president. Dr. Vaknin has written extensively about narcissism.

    Dr. Vaknin States “I must confess I was impressed by Obama from the first time I saw him. At first I was excited to see a black candidate. He looked youthful, spoke well, appeared to be confident — a wholesome presidential package. I was put off soon, not just because of his shallowness but also because there was an air of haughtiness in his demeanor that was unsettling. His posture and his body language were louder than his empty words. Obama’s speeches are unlike any political speech we have heard in American history. Never a politician in this land had such quasi “religious” impact on so many people.

    The fact that Obama is a total incognito with Zero accomplishment, makes this inexplicable infatuation alarming. Obama is not an ordinary man. He is not a genius. In fact he is quite ignorant on most important subjects.”

    Dr. Sam Vaknin, the author of the Malignant Self Love believes “Barack Obama appears to be a narcissist.” Vaknin is a world authority on narcissism. He understands narcissism and describes the inner mind of a narcissist like no other person. When he talks about narcissism everyone listens. Vaknin says that Obama’s language, posture and demeanor, and the testimonies of his closest, dearest friends suggest that the man is either a narcissist or he may have narcissistic personality disorder (NPD).

    Narcissists project a grandiose but false image of themselves. Jim Jones, the charismatic leader of People’s Temple, the man who led over 900 of his followers to cheerfully commit mass suicide and even murder their own children was also a narcissist. David Koresh, Charles Manson, Joseph Koni, Shoko Asahara, Stalin, Saddam, Mao, Kim Jong Ill and Adolph Hitler are a few examples of narcissists of our time. All these men had a tremendous influence over their fanciers. They created a personality cult around themselves and with their blazing speeches elevated their admirers, filled their hearts with enthusiasm and instilled in their minds a new zest for life. They gave them hope! They promised them the moon, but alas, invariably they brought them to their doom.

    When you are a victim of a cult of personality, you don’t know it until it is too late. One determining factor in the development of NPD is childhood abuse “Obama’s early life was decidedly chaotic and replete with traumatic and mentally bruising dislocations,”says Vaknin. “Mixed-race marriages were even less common then. His parents went through a divorce when he was an infant two years old. Obama saw his father only once again, before he died in a car accident. Then his mother re-married and Obama had to relocate to Indonesia , a foreign land with a radically foreign culture, to be raised by a step-father. At the age of ten, he was whisked off to live with his maternal (white) grandparents. He saw his mother only intermittently in the following few years and then she vanished from his life in 1979. “She died of cancer in 1995.”

    One must never underestimate the manipulative genius of pathological narcissists. They project such an imposing personality that it overwhelms those around them. Charmed by the charisma of the narcissist, people become like clay in his hands. They cheerfully do his bidding and delight to be at his service.. The narcissist shapes the world around himself and reduces others in his own inverted image. He creates a cult of personality. His admirers become his co-dependents. Narcissists have no interest in things that do not help them to reach their personal objective. They are focused on one thing alone and that is power. All other issues are meaningless to them and they do not want to waste their precious time on trivialities. Anything that does not help them is beneath them and does not deserve their attention.

    If an issue raised in the Senate does not help Obama in one way or another, he has no interest in it. The “present” vote is a safe vote. No one can criticize him if things go wrong. Those issues are unworthy by their very nature because they are not about him.

    Obama’s election as the first black president of the Harvard Law Review led to a contract and advance to write a book about race relations. The University of Chicago Law School provided him a lot longer than expected and at the end it evolved into, guess what? His own autobiography! Instead of writing a scholarly paper focusing on race relations, for which he had been paid, Obama could not resist writing about his most sublime self. He entitled the book Dreams from My Father.

    Not surprisingly, Adolph Hitler also wrote his own autobiography when he was still a nobody. So did Stalin. For a narcissist no subject is as important as his own self. Why would he waste his precious time and genius writing about insignificant things when he can write about such an august being as himself?

    Narcissists are often callous and even ruthless. As the norm, they lack conscience. This is evident from Obama’s lack of interest in his own brother who lives on only one dollar per month. A man who lives in luxury, who takes a private jet to vacation in Hawaii, and who raised nearly half a billion dollars for his campaign (something unprecedented in history) has no interest in the plight of his own brother. Why? Because, his brother cannot be used for his ascent to power. A narcissist cares for no one but himself.

    This election was like no other in the history of America . The issues were insignificant compared to what is at stake. What can be more dangerous than having a man bereft of conscience, a serial liar, and one who cannot distinguish his fantasies from reality as the leader of the free world?

    I hate to sound alarmist, but one is a fool if one is not alarmed. Many politicians are narcissists. They pose no threat to others. They are simply self serving and selfish. Obama evidences symptoms of pathological narcissism, which is different from the run-of-the-mill narcissism of a Richard Nixon or a Bill Clinton for example. To him reality and fantasy are intertwined.

    This is a mental health issue, not just a character flaw.
    Pathological narcissists are dangerous because they look normal and even intelligent. It is this disguise that makes them treacherous. Today the Democrats have placed all their hopes in Obama. But this man could put an end to their party. The great majority of blacks voted for Obama. Only a fool does not know that their support for him is racially driven. This is racism, pure and simple.

    The downside of this is that if Obama turns out to be the disaster I predict, he will cause widespread resentment among the whites. The blacks are unlikely to give up their support of their man. Cultic mentality is pernicious and unrelenting. They will dig their heads deeper in the sand and blame Obama’s detractors of racism. This will cause a backlash among the whites. The white supremacists will take advantage of the discontent and they will receive widespread support. I predict that in less than four years, racial tensions will increase to levels never seen since the turbulent 1960’s.

    Obama will set the clock back decades. America is the bastion of freedom. The peace of the world depends on the strength of America , and its weakness translates into the triumph of terrorism and victory of rogue nations. It is no wonder that Ahmadinejad, Hugo Chavez, the Castrists, the Hezbollah, the Hamas, the lawyers of the Guantanamo terrorists, and virtually all sworn enemies of America are so thrilled by the prospect of their man in the White House.

    America is on the verge of destruction. There is no insanity greater than electing a pathological narcissist as president.

  2. AC says:

    Entitled food stamper slashes bodega clerk after beer purchase denied

    Just imagine what things will look like when the government goes bankrupt and the food stamps don’t go out nationwide.

  3. F.D.R. in Hell says:

    I developed a Cult of Personality, so believe me when I tell you, your boy in the White House is feeding his Cult by going on all those television entertainment shows.

    If you can’t unseat the Anti-Christ and stop the Sharia takeover, America will never recover. Never. Ever.

  4. Bob Roberts says:

    The way I would have drawn the cartoon balloons is this:

    Panel 1 – as presented.

    Panel 2 – no lines, just Obama pausing for effect.

    Panel 3 – Obama: “Even though I obviously did, because that would be racist!”

    Something like that.

    Hey, if you feel like doing another contest, use this strip and have people fill in what Obama says in all 3 frames.

  5. AC says:

    Law-abiding citizen shoots burglars outside neighbor’s Houston house

    Joe Horn 2.0. Bring it on, Quanell X.

    Dave, the spam filter is eating links again.

  6. Bob Roberts says:

    OH, and what about Fox News and the Koch Brothers? Why no mention of them?

  7. Maudie N Mandeville says:

    @TED: Dr. Vaknin States “I must confess I was impressed by Obama from the first time I saw him. At first I was excited to see a black candidate. He looked youthful, spoke well, appeared to be confident — a wholesome presidential package.”

    That’s all I need to know about Dr. States. At first I never was.

  8. Easy Question… 28 months ago at THE WHITE HOUSE:
    “…Has the President ever had a mailing address in Connecticut?”

    The Easy Answer… NO. But that would not explain why he has a SSN (042-68-4425) reserved ONLY for CT. residents and so it goes unanswered. The reporter is Les Kinsolving from WORLD NET DAILY. Note the Jake Tapper walk-out.

  9. Dr. 9 says:

    After noticing the outrage all over the internet about the govt.’s purchase of “over a 1/2 million” rounds of Hollow Point pistol ammo for agencies that have no rational reason to even have a pistol, the govt. has finally come up with some lame story (see: lie) to keep the sheeple quiet.

    “It’s just for target practice”. That’s how dumb they think everyone is. Who uses expensive hollow point ammo to target shoot?

  10. Anon-Y-Mouse says:

    You forgot “The police acted stupidly…”

  11. A. Levy says:

    “Never in my life, inside or outside of politics, have I witnessed such dishonesty in a political leader. He is the most mendacious political figure I have ever witnessed. Even by the low standards of his presidential predecessors, his narcissistic, contumacious arrogance is unequalled. Using Obama as the bar, Nero would have to be elevated to sainthood. Many in America wanted to be proud when the first person of color was elected president, but instead, they have been witness to a congenital liar, a woman who has been ashamed of America her entire life, failed policies, intimidation, and a commonality hitherto not witnessed in political leaders. He and his wife view their life at our expense as an entitlement – while America’s people go homeless, hungry and unemployed.”
    Mychal Massie

  12. Alphamail says:


    Tell us something we don’t know.

    Having said that, your post is everything many of us, including you – I’ve followed your intelligent poignant comments for awhile – already know. It’s important however, that you posted this for clarification and edification for those in doubt.

    What many may define as confidence in Obama, from day one all I have seen is arrogance, haughtiness, swagger, and an unbelievable air of phoniness.

    In the black community boasting, swagger, and jive-ass talk are often actual confidence. Just play some three-on-three on a ghetto court in Compton like I used to, and much of what is said is consistently backed up.

    For street blacks his bullshit rhetoric is truth. Slightly higher up the social strata the rhetoric is pretty much understood for what it is, but hey, he’s black and we need to support him. Further up, intelligent black men and women see through the bluster and vote their individual perspectives – yea or nay – with a good many voting republican.

    Aside from BS’ing his fellow blacks, it is disquieting so many whites fall prey to what is obviously a full-blown egotistical, self-centered, ideologically driven, disconnected narcissist.

    Whether it’s white guilt, addiction to TV reality and drama, giving the benefit of the doubt, naivete, or whatever, this man has pulled the wool over the eyes of half of the white community, and that should scare the shit out of everyone.

    Vanity, vanity, all is vanity. The Bible clearly warns us. But when it comes at you at this lofty unrecognizable level, it’s hard for everyday individuals to see it or believe that’s what it is.

    People have a lttle over two months to ponder the essence of what you posted.

    For Christians everywhere, it’s time to pray for discernment.

  13. Fez is back says:

    “America is on the verge of destruction. There is no insanity greater than electing a pathological narcissist as president.”

    So… if that’s true, let’s elect another different one… Mitt Romney… someone born rich and well connected ….and who has no trouble believing that he deserves to possess 250+ million extracted from society as a vulture capitalist, and who is such a phony, he makes used car salesmen and sunday morning TVangelical hucksters seem sincere.

    You fucking hysterical money grubbing nigger haters better hope americans are as stupid as you believe… they may well be after Murdock, Moon and the Limbugh-like deseased hate spewing talkers have propagandized them for the last 20+ years …

    God bless your ugly “Merka”… you are so fucking exceptional. Exceptionally decadent. Exceptionally evil.

  14. AC says:

    Regardless of how you feel about extractive “vulture capitalists” and their right to engage in buying and selling, Romney was not one of them. Bain is a turnaround firm. They take troubled enterprises and attempt to salvage what can be salvaged.

    You socialist rotters throw good capital after bad and the result is Spanish-style malinvestment and joblessness.

    Feeding a black hole only creates a larger black hole.

  15. AC says:

    Yo deadfish…how are those dee-troit values you so cherish werkin’ out….PAL?

    It’s time for them to add a Detroit delivery surcharge to pay for armor for the deliverymen.

    Imagine that, body armor is now required to deliver pizzas. Welcome to New Mogadishu.

  16. Alphamail says:

    Joe says:
    dan says:
    Fez is back says:

    Which one of you was the guy in the photograph taking a shit on a police car at Occupy Wall Street?

    You Zionist haters all seem so pissed off.

    Is it because you’re required to take time off from your little gay circle jerks to post, so you can get cash to buy STD cream?

  17. Ghost of FA Hayek says:

    In response to Fez is back troll
    This would be a great time to heed those immortal words:
    If it’s yellow let it mellow
    If it’s brown, flush it down

  18. Ghost of FA Hayek says:

    How hatred became a liberal value

    You will not hear liberals arguing for a crackdown on the use of force by animal-rights activists, environmental activists, union thugs, and the Occupy movement. Instead, you will find in them a desperate hankering to pin on the Tea Party responsibility for conduct the Tea-Partiers abhor and A WILLINGNESS TO ENGAGE IN RACE-BAITING AND TALK OF CLASS WARFARE on a stunning scale.
    (see Fez troll)

  19. Alphamail says:

    In the last 90 minutes A. Levy, wingmann, AC, and Ghost…

    This site is blessed to have your perceptive intelligent input.

    You all boldly affirm the country I love. Thanks.

  20. Comrade Chairman Barack Obama, Hero of Socialist Labor says:

    If it’s yellow let it mellow
    If it’s brown, flush it down

    Let me be clear: this is racist. You acted stupidly.

  21. Bob Roberts says:

    Maudie N Mandeville says: August 17, 2012 at 8:35 pm
    While most saw through him, the point is Obama does have charisma, the same charisma that brought Hitler, Stalin and their ilk to power. THAT IS THE POINT HE’S MAKING.

    Just because you’re impressed by someone does not mean you can’t also, at the same time, see through them.

  22. Alphamail says:

    Comrade Chairman

    If it’s yellow let it mellow
    If it’s brown, flush it down
    If it’s green, we be part of the scene

    The bourgeoisie apologizes.

    OK now?

  23. Bob Roberts says:

    Who is this idiot “Fez” (not sure if I believe he’s “back”, may just be a wannabe hater) and I’m starting a pool to see how long until he’s banned.

    Note his use of the word “nigger”. I would think that enough would be a first strike with only one more chance given before sending his nonsense to obscurity, where it clearly belongs.

    Did he make one valid point? Did he say anything that wasn’t vile, hateful and just plain stupid?

  24. Alphamail says:


    IMHO it now seems you are taking Maudie to task.

    She posted: @TED: Dr. Vaknin States “I must confess I was impressed by Obama from the first time I saw him….”

    She says: “That’s all I need to know about Dr. States (she means Dr. Vaknin – ‘States’ was capitalized and it seemed to be his last name). At first I never was.”

    When she says “At first I never was”, she is affirming that at the beginning, she was never impressed by Obama either!

    She is telling you she saw through Obama’s pretext!

    That’s two misreads in one night. Maybe you should cut back on the scotch, or stick to loading the site with current events.

  25. Antisocialist says:

    SAA rejects all white men
    Cadet pilot training course applications from white men are no longer being accepted by the SA Airways (SAA), it was reported on Friday.

  26. TED says:

    Maudie N Mandeville says: August 17, 2012 at 8:35 pm

    That’s true, but, being a Dr. and arab I’m sure he is or was a liberal and to get a liberal to admit he is wrong about the great masiah is truly a miracle and unheard of. After all progs are NEVER wrong. Or so they would have you believe.

  27. Bloodless Coup says:


  28. dan says:

    roger that, Bloodless Coup…remember the info ‘between the line’ from Paul Harvey from deep sources ?

    I enjoyed the first post of TED…always nice to have my humble opinions blostered by folks who know whay they’re talkin’ about….

    IMHO : ‘whitey’ is at least as racist as Nigerian,but then I’ve never met a man from the Caucus Mountain Region and if we ban people for saying stupid things (on occasion) then I’m a gonner 🙂

  29. dan says:

    …uh,that would be lines and bolstered…gotta get a new secretary or learn to type.

  30. TonyD95B says:

    RE: Bloodless Coup at August 18, 2012 at 3:13 am:


    Yeah, and an “informant” told Dingy Harry Reed that Governor Romney hasn’t paid taxes in a decade…..

    What a bunch overheated bulls#it.

    Reminds me of the 1990s “Black Helicopter New World Order” nonsense embraced by dangerous wackos like Timmy McVeigh.

    I’ll bet Witless Kook has “Red Dawn” on VHS, Beta AND DVD…….but not on Blu-Ray…….not on Blu-Ray.

    Witless is SURE the “Shadow Government” is using Blu-Ray players to surreptitiously place mind control and surveillance devices in every home in America…..and they double as homing beacons for the UN / Russo-Chinese Islamic invaders’ helicopters.

    He’s SURE beyond a shadow of a doubt because Alex Jones (IF that’s his REAL name!!) told him so…..

    Van, I do NOT embrace censorship, and I think people have a right to make a fool of themselves, but this incredible “Troofer” stuff Witless Kook keeps posting and linking to is not something you want Moonbattery associated with. I recommend you keep a close eye on ol’ Witless – he’s getting more and more erratic.

    *Hey Witless – that key on the left is your “CAPS LOCK”……

  31. Alphamail says:

    As I drink my morning coffee I’m looking out my kitchen window at what appears to be thousands of Russians massing at a nearby park.

    The wind is whipping up shredded Blu-Ray wrappers.

    Oops, my tinfoil slipped…just a sec…

    Yup, there…there they are.

  32. TonyD95B says:

    RE: Alphamail at August 18, 2012 at 7:58 am:

    Be careful, Alphamail – “They” know you were in Law Enforcement, “they” know you were Army Airborne, and “they” know you are watching…..and “coffee” (genetically altered and specially processed by the Dick Cheney / Bush Family / Haiiliburton alliance at super-secret high-tech facilities in South America) is one of the ways they’ve been administering the “mind control” compound…..Pour it out!!!!!!! AIIIIIIEEEE!!!!


  33. chuck in st paul says:

    Hopium – you can never get enough.

  34. Alphamail says:

    Is green tea safe?

  35. TED says:

    Military vehicles from the U.S. Army Reserve patrolling the streets of Sheboygan County in Wisconsin that began Aug. 5 and will continue through Aug. 17 are part of a “training exercise,” according to Captain William Geddes of the 200th Military Police Command at Fort Mead, Md. But those soldiers have already “trained” in the use of the M117 Armored Security Vehicles in Afghanistan.

    America’s Newest Vaccination

  36. Ghost of FA Hayek says:

    How many lies and obfuscations can be placed in one video
    Rove boogie man
    Koch bro’s

  37. TonyD95B says:

    RE: TED at August 18, 2012 at 1:56 pm:


    Oh, NOW I get it!!! The Evil Military Police are gonna link up with Witless Kook’s 20,000 Spetznaz Conan-doh!s that are on “Standby” waiting……waiting……..STRIKE!!!!

    This anti-MP nonsense is getting really tiresome. Get a clue, folks.

  38. Adam says:

    “You fucking hysterical money grubbing nigger haters better hope americans are as stupid as you believe…”
    Okay, Fez, after posting that, you officially no longer have the right to openly accuse us of racism the way you’ve done in the past. You hypocritical, brain- damaged, racist sack of crap.

    “Who is this idiot “Fez” (not sure if I believe he’s “back”, may just be a wannabe hater) and I’m starting a pool to see how long until he’s banned.”
    Fez is one of our oldest, dumbest, most obnoxious, and most predictable trolls. I and others here have been sparring with him (Though he occasionally uses different names) for years. Here are some of his trademarks:
    1. He has massive, immense hatred towards conservatives, Christians, capitalists, people who aren’t ultra- vegan health food nuts, people who happen to live in the South, people who believe in the right to bear arms, people who like/ are proud of America, and anyone else who disagrees with him on anything.
    2. His posts tend to contain literally nothing but obscene insults, baseless stereotypes and pathetic straw men. In particular, he loves claiming that literally everyone here and everyone who’s conservative are all automatically brainless, disgustingly obese, Bible- thumping, gun- crazy rednecks who beat their wives and want to reinstate slavery (Yes, he claimed that even before Biden did). He occasionally brings up a story relating to some random instance of a random fringe weirdo who can vaguely be considered conservative doing something crazy/ stupid, then claims that everyone here and all conservatives in general fully agree with the weirdo in question (i.e. A few years ago on Halloween, some religious fanatic woman claimed that all Halloween candy had demons in it; Fez used the article about it to claim that all Christians everywhere must automatically agree with her). If he lost the ability to use stereotypes, I guarantee we’d never see him again (Praise be to God if that actually happened).
    3. He quite regularly claims that we want to secede from America and start our own country and demands that we do so, even though none of us have ever expressed any desire to do so, and even though it’s pretty much always the ultra- liberals who are the ones that actually talk about splitting up the country (As epitomized by their love of the idiotic “New America/ Jesusland” posters).
    4. He has a somewhat sporadic trolling pattern. Usually, he trolls a couple threads (Usually open threads) for a while, then abruptly stops for a while, then resurfaces a couple months or so later.
    5. Even though Fez has the IQ of a brin- damaged groundhog and even though his trolling is among the dumbest, most asinine, and most pointless of any troll we’ve ever dealt with, he seems to be under the delusion that he’s “Messing with (Our) minds” by doing so.
    6. He appears to have an obsession with male genitalia, as he frequently talks about it in his trolling (i.e. “You like having guns to compensate for having tiny penises,” referring to our anger over liberal idiocy as “Hatesturbating,” etc.). Perhaps he has some kind of Freudian complex?
    7. Most disturbingly, Fez appears to either support pedophilia or possibly be a pedophile himself. This is evidenced by the fact that for a while last summer, he went by the sockpuppet name “Martijn,” which happens to be the name of a Dutch organization that seeks to legalize pedophilia.
    Fez, please just get out of here. You have literally nothing to offer, and are a waste of space.

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