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May 19 2014

Transgender 9-Year-Old Revisited

The below post went up on Moonbattery on May 1. Google found it so offensive that they demanded it be removed. Google’s AdSense was the site’s primary source of revenue, giving them some leverage. So I set about looking for an alternative advertiser.

Few people would have seen the post who hadn’t already read it anyway, since it had been pushed off the main page. Now that there are no longer AdSense ads on this site, let’s post it again, to give people a chance to figure out what the “Don’t Be Evil” ideologues at Google believe must be censored:

Transgender 9-Year-Old

Calling him “her” does not make a boy into a girl, no matter how devoted the parents and the media might be to promoting bizarre left-wing sexual ideology. Neither do pharmaceutical and surgical treatments that belong on the Island of Doctor Moreau. But they will be sufficient to reduce the poor kid to a freak:

The Constitution forbids cruel and unusual punishment of criminals. But evidently nothing is too outlandishly depraved to inflict on the innocent.

The media that systematically promotes this grotesque insanity is as guilty as the parents — if not more so. There will be no follow-up report 10 years down the road when their little social engineering project ends up slitting his wrists, unless they can somehow spin it into propaganda encouraging other parents to do this to their children.

My theory is that this was censored not because it was offensive or hurtful or whatever, but because the grotesque ideology that entails sacrificing children to the liberal god of sexual dysfunction cannot be defended, so opposition to it must be silenced.

Meanwhile, in Britain, where socialized medicine is already a fait accompli:

Britain’s National Health Service (NHS) could give drugs to children as young as nine to prepare them for sex-change surgery, the Mail on Sunday reports. The treatment, which halts puberty, will be aimed at children who believe they are the wrong gender.

This lunacy is like stretching out 9-year-olds’ necks after persuading them that they think they are giraffes.

At least a few still dare to point out some of the more obvious downsides of chemically preventing children’s bodies from developing normally for ideological reasons. Ventures Conservative MP Andrew Percy,

“I think many people will be horrified at the thought of a nine-year-old being provided with a drug that effectively stops them developing and maturing naturally.”

Conservative MP Mark Pritchard wonders why the resources involved are not going to life-saving cancer drugs.

Even if you believe in gender-dysphoric transgenderism crapola,

There are also concerns that pre-pubescent children are far too young to know whether they are really transgender. Professor Anne Dreger, a leading bioethicist, said: “Putting children on puberty-blocking hormones, may, for some, cement the idea that they are transgender when perhaps they are not.”

Another public figure, who declined to be named, told the Mail on Sunday that liberals may be too eager to label children who don’t fit in as transgender: “This is about policing the behaviour of little girls and boys.

“So tomboys and boys who like to play with dolls are immediately seen as transgender. All the liberals think they are supporting transgender rights with this, but what they are really doing is mutilating healthy bodies to help people “fit in”.”

Or maybe they are mutilating their children’s healthy bodies to prove how “tolerant” (i.e., politically obedient to the leftist ruling class) they are.

The drugs involved are called hypothalamic blockers. One of the most popular varieties is Gonapeptyl, which is £82 per dose. Possible side effects include rashes, asthma, ovarian cysts and depression.

A small price to pay to enhance polysexual rainbow diversity, I’m sure.

Ever escalating horrors will be inflicted on the innocent in the name of this sick ideology unless we stand up to the liberal establishment. The first step is to refuse to be intimidated by political correctness.

The second step is to steer clear of aggressively left-wing companies like Google, which incidentally pulled their ads from Weasel Zippers, another conservative site that relied on AdSense as the primary funding source — supposedly for not publishing enough original content.

The lesson learned by both Moonbattery.com and Weasel Zippers: do not become reliant on the opposition. Outfits like Google care more about moonbattery than they do about profits, and feel no obligation to play fair.

On tips from Henry and Stormfax.



91 Responses to “Transgender 9-Year-Old Revisited”

  1. Daniel says:

    If this bothers you, then perhaps you should avoid learning about the other chemicals we are ALL enjoying on a daily basis which affect our sexuality and our sexual development. Go with as many natural foods as possible, avoid plain tap water in most places, stop drinking soft drinks or from any BPA plastic containers, avoid Subway (who has STILL not stopped putting plastic in their bread), avoid US dairy and the list goes on and on. They are chemically turning people into emotional liberals.

  2. Daniel says:

    If this bothers you, then perhaps you should avoid learning about the other chemicals we are ALL enjoying on a daily basis which affect our sexuality and our sexual development. Go with as many natural foods as possible, avoid plain tap water in most places, stop drinking soft drinks or from any BPA plastic containers, avoid Subway (who has STILL not stopped putting plastic in their bread), avoid US dairy and the list goes on and on. They are chemically turning people into emotional liberals.

  3. KHarn says:

    =“So tomboys and boys who like to play with dolls are immediately seen as transgender. All the liberals think they are supporting transgender rights with this, but what they are really doing is mutilating healthy bodies to help people “fit in”.=
    And LO! A ray of light did shine through the clouds!

  4. KHarn says:

    =“So tomboys and boys who like to play with dolls are immediately seen as transgender. All the liberals think they are supporting transgender rights with this, but what they are really doing is mutilating healthy bodies to help people “fit in”.=
    And LO! A ray of light did shine through the clouds!

  5. Mr. Mentalo says:

    I eat hot dogs. I drink soda. Harder stuff sometimes as well. I’ve had lunch at Subway, drink cold water out of plastic containers, drink milk, eat cheese (yes, from…gasp…American dairies) and somehow I still like girls.

  6. Mr. Mentalo says:

    I eat hot dogs. I drink soda. Harder stuff sometimes as well. I’ve had lunch at Subway, drink cold water out of plastic containers, drink milk, eat cheese (yes, from…gasp…American dairies) and somehow I still like girls.

  7. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Congrats, Dave on getting away from Google. A difficult business decision, I’m sure, but it is hard to put a value on freedom.

  8. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Congrats, Dave on getting away from Google. A difficult business decision, I’m sure, but it is hard to put a value on freedom.

  9. Mr. Mentalo says:

    Man, the total muzzling of any non-progressive thinking is almost complete. Good for you Dave (in terms of taking a stand…BAD for you in terms of ad revenue). SCREW Google. I’ve used Bing for a couple of years now. I like it better anyhow.

    Over and over and OVER again, they do this to us, yet we’re still told to “be civil, be polite, don’t attack Hillary, reach across the aisle…”

    I’ll reach across the aisle, alright…but only to grab my S&W .44.

    THEY MEAN US HARM.

  10. Mr. Mentalo says:

    Man, the total muzzling of any non-progressive thinking is almost complete. Good for you Dave (in terms of taking a stand…BAD for you in terms of ad revenue). SCREW Google. I’ve used Bing for a couple of years now. I like it better anyhow.

    Over and over and OVER again, they do this to us, yet we’re still told to “be civil, be polite, don’t attack Hillary, reach across the aisle…”

    I’ll reach across the aisle, alright…but only to grab my S&W .44.

    THEY MEAN US HARM.

  11. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Enjoy living au natural. Personally I like having nice, clean plastic tubes deliver medication into my veins when I am sick in the hospital. I like drinking pasteurized milk delivered in a nice clean PE container.

    Now if you had mentioned McNuggets, then I might agree with you.

  12. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Enjoy living au natural. Personally I like having nice, clean plastic tubes deliver medication into my veins when I am sick in the hospital. I like drinking pasteurized milk delivered in a nice clean PE container.

    Now if you had mentioned McNuggets, then I might agree with you.

  13. Daniel says:

    You are what is statistically called “an anecdote.” If you want to see some trends, look to the differences among countries where the things I mentioned are limited, controlled or simply illegal. (Subway’s bread recipe is ONLY legal in the US.) Look to the early female puberty rates in the US. Much of it has been attributed to the crap in our food. And the stuff that affects women… you think it DOESN’T affect men? The effect is cumulative. Is “E.D.” a natural problem? Some will say “oh, it’s because he has blood pressure issues.” Really? That can’t be the whole story. I know I have high blood pressure, but one dirty thought later and I’m sporting camping gear.

    I’m an anecdote. You’re an anecdote. The national statistics paint a different kind of picture. Please. Get educated.

  14. Daniel says:

    You are what is statistically called “an anecdote.” If you want to see some trends, look to the differences among countries where the things I mentioned are limited, controlled or simply illegal. (Subway’s bread recipe is ONLY legal in the US.) Look to the early female puberty rates in the US. Much of it has been attributed to the crap in our food. And the stuff that affects women… you think it DOESN’T affect men? The effect is cumulative. Is “E.D.” a natural problem? Some will say “oh, it’s because he has blood pressure issues.” Really? That can’t be the whole story. I know I have high blood pressure, but one dirty thought later and I’m sporting camping gear.

    I’m an anecdote. You’re an anecdote. The national statistics paint a different kind of picture. Please. Get educated.

  15. ThisObamaNation says:

    Did A Breitbart News Investigative Journalist Prove That
    Birther’s Claims Are Right?

    Did This Same Investigative Journalist Get Axed By Breitbart
    News For Discovering The Truth About Obama?

    Is Breitbart News Now Fully Complicit In The Obama
    Eligibility Cover Up?

    According To The Terminated Journalist,

    The Answers To These Questions Are

    Yes, Yes, And Yes.

    http://www.birtherreport.com/2014/05/exposed-breitbart-investigative.html

  16. ThisObamaNation says:

    Did A Breitbart News Investigative Journalist Prove That
    Birther’s Claims Are Right?

    Did This Same Investigative Journalist Get Axed By Breitbart
    News For Discovering The Truth About Obama?

    Is Breitbart News Now Fully Complicit In The Obama
    Eligibility Cover Up?

    According To The Terminated Journalist,

    The Answers To These Questions Are

    Yes, Yes, And Yes.

    http://www.birtherreport.com/2014/05/exposed-breitbart-investigative.html

  17. hiram says:

    The early female puberty thing has nothing to do with hormones in the milk like a lot of ‘bats will screech about… they’ve always been there, since milk comes from a female cow. It’s ALWAYS been chock full of estrogen. Puberty sets in earlier nowadays because girls get fat at an earlier age; it’s too much crapPY food, not the crap in it, coupled with no meaningful exercise compared to when we were kids. I blame video games, satellite TV, and smartphones.

  18. hiram says:

    The early female puberty thing has nothing to do with hormones in the milk like a lot of ‘bats will screech about… they’ve always been there, since milk comes from a female cow. It’s ALWAYS been chock full of estrogen. Puberty sets in earlier nowadays because girls get fat at an earlier age; it’s too much crapPY food, not the crap in it, coupled with no meaningful exercise compared to when we were kids. I blame video games, satellite TV, and smartphones.

  19. AnalogMan says:

    Google’s ads are supposedly targeted to sites that the advertiser’s target market is likely to frequent. Yet, strangely, I have seen many ads for interracial dating sites on “racist” blogs. I believe that Google does this deliberately to stick it to their political enemies. This was confirmed for me last week when I inadvertently posted a link to a politically incorrect image, only to find out later that the ads on that page consisted of obscene pictures; not just obscene, but criminal images of child pornography.

    I use Adblock Plus, and recommend it to everybody. If nobody sees Google’s ads, Google won’t be able to sell ads.

  20. AnalogMan says:

    Google’s ads are supposedly targeted to sites that the advertiser’s target market is likely to frequent. Yet, strangely, I have seen many ads for interracial dating sites on “racist” blogs. I believe that Google does this deliberately to stick it to their political enemies. This was confirmed for me last week when I inadvertently posted a link to a politically incorrect image, only to find out later that the ads on that page consisted of obscene pictures; not just obscene, but criminal images of child pornography.

    I use Adblock Plus, and recommend it to everybody. If nobody sees Google’s ads, Google won’t be able to sell ads.

  21. Daniel says:

    I used to think like you — quantity, not quality. Then I changed what I ate. Now I’m not fat and still eat as much as I want (which is far more than I need). It’s not fat kids when even skinny girls get it. And yes, there are all sorts of problems with the food which DO NOT EXIST in other countries which do not allow it. Please, if you will, explain it.

    Every counter-argument I get mysteriously forgets any reference I make to problems which do not exist when you cross a border.

  22. Daniel says:

    I used to think like you — quantity, not quality. Then I changed what I ate. Now I’m not fat and still eat as much as I want (which is far more than I need). It’s not fat kids when even skinny girls get it. And yes, there are all sorts of problems with the food which DO NOT EXIST in other countries which do not allow it. Please, if you will, explain it.

    Every counter-argument I get mysteriously forgets any reference I make to problems which do not exist when you cross a border.

  23. Daniel says:

    Give that man an award. There is freedom of speech and there is freedom not to listen. I believe in both.

  24. Daniel says:

    Give that man an award. There is freedom of speech and there is freedom not to listen. I believe in both.

  25. Azsteve53 says:

    Dave Blount does a wonderful job with Moonbattery. Little doubt exists that the totalitarians who run the government would like to shut this site down. Thank you again Mr. Blount for all you do, it is much appreciated.

  26. Azsteve53 says:

    Dave Blount does a wonderful job with Moonbattery. Little doubt exists that the totalitarians who run the government would like to shut this site down. Thank you again Mr. Blount for all you do, it is much appreciated.

  27. SineWaveII says:

    Ahem: “First do no harm” or doesn’t that mean anything anymore?

  28. SineWaveII says:

    Ahem. “First do no harm” or doesn’t that mean anything anymore?

  29. SineWaveII says:

    Won’t do any good. Do you really think it was an “accident” that they flooded our drinking water with female hormone?

  30. SineWaveII says:

    Won’t do any good. Do you really think it was an “accident” that they flooded our drinking water with female hormone?

  31. Mr. Mentalo says:

    Oh, right. Across the border. People live MUCH longer, healthier lives in Mexico, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Panama…you name it. There are NO nutritionally challenged people there. Citizen health is priority number ONE in Latin America.

    What a bunch of bullsh*t. Progressives (and you absolutely ARE one my friend) are terrified of everything. EVERYTHING is killing them, shortening their life span (which is longer than it’s ever been), causing them to become obese (try putting down your damn iPhone or X-Box and, you know, MOVE a little), or giving them erectile disfunction (which, given what most progressive women are like, isn’t too hard to understand).

    I eat healthy…very much so…but am not terrified of everything in the market, and I don’t kid myself that I’ll live forever. So you go ahead and eat vegan. Eat organic. Eat wheat grass juice. Eat non-GMO corn. Avoid Gluten. Nix Salt. Prohibit sugar. Close all McDonald’s. Cover your eyes when you see a Twinkie…whatever floats your boat.

    Me? I’ll be moderate in all things, eat good food, not worry myself to death and do just fine, thanks!

  32. Mr. Mentalo says:

    Oh, right. Across the border. People live MUCH longer, healthier lives in Mexico, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Panama…you name it. There are NO nutritionally challenged people there. Citizen health is priority number ONE in Latin America.

    What a bunch of bullsh*t. Progressives (and you absolutely ARE one my friend) are terrified of everything. EVERYTHING is killing them, shortening their life span (which is longer than it’s ever been), causing them to become obese (try putting down your damn iPhone or X-Box and, you know, MOVE a little), or giving them erectile disfunction (which, given what most progressive women are like, isn’t too hard to understand).

    I eat healthy…very much so…but am not terrified of everything in the market, and I don’t kid myself that I’ll live forever. So you go ahead and eat vegan. Eat organic. Eat wheat grass juice. Eat non-GMO corn. Avoid Gluten. Nix Salt. Prohibit sugar. Close all McDonald’s. Cover your eyes when you see a Twinkie…whatever floats your boat.

    Me? I’ll be moderate in all things, eat good food, not worry myself to death and do just fine, thanks!

  33. William Wilson says:

    …and somebody, please…get that kid to an orthodontist.

  34. William Wilson says:

    …and somebody, please…get that kid to an orthodontist.

  35. Son_of_Taz says:

    The next step in this is to email any Google Adwords advertisers you encounter on other sites and tell them why you won’t do business with them. Tell them why they should drop Google Adwords.

    It won’t work in every case, but if enough people do this, even a behemoth like Google will have to take notice.

  36. Eddie_Valiant says:

    The next step in this is to email any Google Adwords advertisers you encounter on other sites and tell them why you won’t do business with them. Tell them why they should drop Google Adwords.

    It won’t work in every case, but if enough people do this, even a behemoth like Google will have to take notice.

  37. Son_of_Taz says:

    Plastic in their bread. Let’s see irrefutable proof of that specious charge.

  38. Eddie_Valiant says:

    Plastic in their bread. Let’s see irrefutable proof of that specious charge.

  39. hiram says:

    Too true. Girls could be going through puberty later in other countries because they’re surviving on corn mush, tree bark, and boiled shoes for all we know.

    I once worked with an older fellow who’s kid was a bio-engineer. Some of the corn he developed that was sold as cattle feed got accidentally mixed into the regular food supply, and the hippies went batshit (this was around 2002 or so). He said, “hell, I *want* to eat that stuff; you don’t have to spray pesticides on it!”

    A couple of good points about “organic” farming: First, organic food makes up less than 1% of the food supply, but is responsible for 8% of the food-poisoning cases in this country. Second, if we wanted to mandate it globally, we’d have to figure out which half of the global population we’d have to let starve to death. Not like that’s a tough decision for a progressive or anything, but hey.

  40. hiram says:

    Too true. Girls could be going through puberty later in other countries because they’re surviving on corn mush, tree bark, and boiled shoes for all we know.

    I once worked with an older fellow who’s kid was a bio-engineer. Some of the corn he developed that was sold as cattle feed got accidentally mixed into the regular food supply, and the hippies went batshit (this was around 2002 or so). He said, “hell, I *want* to eat that stuff; you don’t have to spray pesticides on it!”

    A couple of good points about “organic” farming: First, organic food makes up less than 1% of the food supply, but is responsible for 8% of the food-poisoning cases in this country. Second, if we wanted to mandate it globally, we’d have to figure out which half of the global population we’d have to let starve to death. Not like that’s a tough decision for a progressive or anything, but hey.

  41. Daniel says:

    You can’t so much as google the phrase?

    http // www nydailynews com / life-style / health / yoga-mat-chemical-found-500-grocery-items-report-article-1.1706644

  42. Daniel says:

    You can’t so much as google the phrase?

    http // www nydailynews com / life-style / health / yoga-mat-chemical-found-500-grocery-items-report-article-1.1706644

  43. Daniel says:

    Across A border, not necessarily “the” border and there is also Canada across “the” border. You really should invest in a map. I’m largely talking about other 1st world peer nations. But since you brought that up, sugar is healthier than HFCS and guess what’s in Mexican Coca-Cola?

    You might look through my commentary history before you presume I’m progressive. Far from it. I just trust government and big business to make the wrong decisions when it comes to what I put into my body.

    And I take it as a sign that some people are doing it right when SWAT teams from the FDA and USDA send raids out to co-operations who privately share wholesome foods.

  44. Daniel says:

    Across A border, not necessarily “the” border and there is also Canada across “the” border. You really should invest in a map. I’m largely talking about other 1st world peer nations. But since you brought that up, sugar is healthier than HFCS and guess what’s in Mexican Coca-Cola?

    You might look through my commentary history before you presume I’m progressive. Far from it. I just trust government and big business to make the wrong decisions when it comes to what I put into my body.

    And I take it as a sign that some people are doing it right when SWAT teams from the FDA and USDA send raids out to co-operations who privately share wholesome foods.

  45. Daniel says:

    Food poisoning? Really? Because consumers don’t know how to wash their vegetables, you’re wanting to blame the market? I suppose you want to blame alcohol producers for drunk driving too? Did you know that guns kill people not people killing people?

  46. Daniel says:

    Food poisoning? Really? Because consumers don’t know how to wash their vegetables, you’re wanting to blame the market? I suppose you want to blame alcohol producers for drunk driving too? Did you know that guns kill people not people killing people?

  47. Daniel says:

    I didn’t even think McNuggets needed any mention

  48. Daniel says:

    I didn’t even think McNuggets needed any mention

  49. Jodie says:

    Another example of good versus evil. You are in GOOD company Dave. Google and Yahoo have been pulling the ads of those who are trying to save babies too:

    “Pro-life ads and those related to conservative Christian views and values seem
    to be coming under increasing attack. Weeks after Google pulled pro-life
    ads from its ‘abortion clinics’ search results, Yahoo has also followed suit after being petitioned by the pro-choice groups NARAL Pro-Choice America and UltraViolet.

    A recent publication of the Christian Post reports that NARAL and UltraViolet alleged that the ‘majority’ of ads that popped up when users typed ‘abortion clinics’ into Yahoo’s search were ‘deceptive,’ funded by pro-life groups and discouraged women
    from having abortions.

    Yahoo’s policy states that ‘ad offers and their landing page must be directly relevant to each other’ and that it may reject or retract any ads found to be ‘misleading, deceptive, false or untrue.’ Yahoo has therefore reportedly proceeded to take down at least some of the ads alleged to be out of compliance with their policies. They are in the process of reviewing other ads to take similar action.

    NARAL president Ilyse Hogue said in a statement: ‘Women making this personal, medical decision should have comprehensive resources and accurate information. … We will work with Yahoo to pinpoint the ads that are masquerading as abortion clinics so they are promptly taken down when they appear.’ Nita Chaudhary, co-founder of UltraViolet, added, ‘The harm done by these ads cannot be overstated – women in vulnerable positions are being lured into false clinics where they are harassed, yelled at, and given inaccurate information, all for seeking abortion care.'”

    Read more at http://www.prophecynewswatch.com/2014/May20/205.html#G4FLIoLRPxtDsgRe.99

  50. Jodie says:

    Another example of good versus evil. You are in GOOD company Dave. Google and Yahoo have been pulling the ads of those who are trying to save babies too:

    “Pro-life ads and those related to conservative Christian views and values seem
    to be coming under increasing attack. Weeks after Google pulled pro-life
    ads from its ‘abortion clinics’ search results, Yahoo has also followed suit after being petitioned by the pro-choice groups NARAL Pro-Choice America and UltraViolet.

    A recent publication of the Christian Post reports that NARAL and UltraViolet alleged that the ‘majority’ of ads that popped up when users typed ‘abortion clinics’ into Yahoo’s search were ‘deceptive,’ funded by pro-life groups and discouraged women
    from having abortions.

    Yahoo’s policy states that ‘ad offers and their landing page must be directly relevant to each other’ and that it may reject or retract any ads found to be ‘misleading, deceptive, false or untrue.’ Yahoo has therefore reportedly proceeded to take down at least some of the ads alleged to be out of compliance with their policies. They are in the process of reviewing other ads to take similar action.

    NARAL president Ilyse Hogue said in a statement: ‘Women making this personal, medical decision should have comprehensive resources and accurate information. … We will work with Yahoo to pinpoint the ads that are masquerading as abortion clinics so they are promptly taken down when they appear.’ Nita Chaudhary, co-founder of UltraViolet, added, ‘The harm done by these ads cannot be overstated – women in vulnerable positions are being lured into false clinics where they are harassed, yelled at, and given inaccurate information, all for seeking abortion care.'”

    Read more at http://www.prophecynewswatch.com/2014/May20/205.html#G4FLIoLRPxtDsgRe.99

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  52. Tchhht!!! says:

    Some moonbat liberal horse’s ass comes out of the woodwork and starts blurting unsubstantiated nonsense and it never occurs the rest of the lemming like liberals to think for themselves. Oh, hell yes. It HAS to be true because Merly Streep, or Jane “The Traitor” Fonda, or Connie Chung, or Oprah “The Racist” Winfrey, or (insert liberal jackass name here) said so. Some people will believe anything.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=yi3erdgVVTw

  53. Tchhht!!! says:

    Some moonbat liberal horse’s ass comes out of the woodwork and starts blurting unsubstantiated nonsense and it never occurs the rest of the lemming like liberals to think for themselves. Oh, hell yes. It HAS to be true because Merly Streep, or Jane “The Traitor” Fonda, or Connie Chung, or Oprah “The Racist” Winfrey, or (insert liberal jackass name here) said so. Some people will believe anything.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=yi3erdgVVTw

  54. hiram says:

    No, food poisoning because it’s GROWN IN SHIT. “Organic Fertilizer”. Either that, or you’re saying that people who eat ‘organic’ don’t know how to wash their vegetables, while the rest of us non-hypochondriacs do.

  55. hiram says:

    No, food poisoning because it’s GROWN IN SHIT. “Organic Fertilizer”. Either that, or you’re saying that people who eat ‘organic’ don’t know how to wash their vegetables, while the rest of us non-hypochondriacs do.

  56. Daniel says:

    Well, I guess you’re right because you say so and I am therefore wrong. You say “unsubstantiated” and yet you provide no substance indicating I’m wrong in any particular way on any particular point. “Name calling and you’re wrong” You really could have kept it shorter if you had no point to offer yourself.

    There are poisons in our food and water and government and industry put them there. And even if you completely disagree with that (based on what information or expertise? trust in government and industry? be honest) as a conservative, you must agree that it’s not the government’s place or role to send SWAT teams to stop people from eating and drinking the foods they want to drink.

    Are your positions completely well thought-out?

  57. Daniel says:

    Well, I guess you’re right because you say so and I am therefore wrong. You say “unsubstantiated” and yet you provide no substance indicating I’m wrong in any particular way on any particular point. “Name calling and you’re wrong” You really could have kept it shorter if you had no point to offer yourself.

    There are poisons in our food and water and government and industry put them there. And even if you completely disagree with that (based on what information or expertise? trust in government and industry? be honest) as a conservative, you must agree that it’s not the government’s place or role to send SWAT teams to stop people from eating and drinking the foods they want to drink.

    Are your positions completely well thought-out?

  58. Daniel says:

    All the best foods are grown in shit. The content of it may be an issue and the proper use of it may also be an issue, but a plant converts that into more plant matter. You realize that “soil” is properly made up of all manner of organic matter both living and dead and also copious amounts of shit? What do you think dirt is exactly?

  59. Daniel says:

    All the best foods are grown in shit. The content of it may be an issue and the proper use of it may also be an issue, but a plant converts that into more plant matter. You realize that “soil” is properly made up of all manner of organic matter both living and dead and also copious amounts of shit? What do you think dirt is exactly?

  60. Tchhht!!! says:

    ROFLMFAO!!! I re-read my comment and I can’t see where I said you were wrong. I question the source of the claim. Jeez guy, you ought to get out more often. I don’t have the time to educate you. Like you responded to Taz…google it yourself.

  61. Tchhht!!! says:

    ROFLMFAO!!! I re-read my comment and I can’t see where I said you were wrong. I question the source of the claim. Jeez guy, you ought to get out more often. I don’t have the time to educate you. Like you responded to Taz…google it yourself.

  62. hiram says:

    So, by avoiding the glaringly obvious conclusion here, you are essentially confirming my suspicions.

    A. Growing food in shit increases the likelihood of it causing food poisoning.
    B. Soil is shit.
    C. Organic fertilizer is even MORE shit flung all over the crop.
    D. Washing food can mitigate the effects of so much shit.
    E. Organic food is roughly 6 times more likely to poison you from all the shit.

    Conclusion: People who eat organic food are more likely to be too stupid to wash the shit off of it first.

  63. hiram says:

    So, by avoiding the glaringly obvious conclusion here, you are essentially confirming my suspicions.

    A. Growing food in shit increases the likelihood of it causing food poisoning.
    B. Soil is shit.
    C. Organic fertilizer is even MORE shit flung all over the crop.
    D. Washing food can mitigate the effects of so much shit.
    E. Organic food is roughly 6 times more likely to poison you from all the shit.

    Conclusion: People who eat organic food are more likely to be too stupid to wash the shit off of it first.

  64. hiram says:

    Of course you realize that you’re getting into a religious debate with this guy…

  65. hiram says:

    Of course you realize that you’re getting into a religious debate with this guy…

  66. Chel says:

    Hi there. I’m a transgender woman who was linked here (via a site rather hostile to this one), and I’m gonna try to answer the questions here in good faith. If you have any followups, or are interested in the subject in general, it’s easiest to reach me via Reddit PM (http://www.reddit.com/user/Chel_of_the_sea/).

    To answer your question: there is ample evidence that this is not doing harm to anyone. Leaving trans folk untreated results in depression and even an alarmingly high suicide attempt rate, but when we transition these go almost entirely away (see these links: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jsm.12363/abstract http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jsm.12155/abstract http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21937168).

    For myself, I can say that I have been infinitely, indescribably happier since starting hormone treatments a little over three months ago. Even my family – who are very conservative indeed – can see it and (for the most part) are coming around on the issue. I feel whole in a way I never have before, and am beginning to see something I like in the mirror for the very first time.

  67. Chel says:

    Hi there. I’m a transgender woman who was linked here (via a site rather hostile to this one), and I’m gonna try to answer the questions here in good faith. If you have any followups, or are interested in the subject in general, it’s easiest to reach me via Reddit PM (http://www.reddit.com/user/Chel_of_the_sea/).

    To answer your question: there is ample evidence that this is not doing harm to anyone. Leaving trans folk untreated results in depression and even an alarmingly high suicide attempt rate, but when we transition these go almost entirely away (see these links: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jsm.12363/abstract http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jsm.12155/abstract http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21937168).

    For myself, I can say that I have been infinitely, indescribably happier since starting hormone treatments a little over three months ago. Even my family – who are very conservative indeed – can see it and (for the most part) are coming around on the issue. I feel whole in a way I never have before, and am beginning to see something I like in the mirror for the very first time.

  68. Mr. Freemarket says:

    From your first reference:
    “Analysis of the psychosocial variables showed no significant differences between pre- and postoperative assessments.”

    In other words, hormones made a difference in how people feel. Actually “changing gender” did not. Hormones are powerful chemicals that have a lot of effect upon brain chemistry.

    If hormone treatments have helped you, that’s great.

  69. Mr. Freemarket says:

    From your first reference:
    “Analysis of the psychosocial variables showed no significant differences between pre- and postoperative assessments.”

    In other words, hormones made a difference in how people feel. Actually “changing gender” did not. Hormones are powerful chemicals that have a lot of effect upon brain chemistry.

    If hormone treatments have helped you, that’s great.

  70. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Do you know why HFCS is used in Coke in the US? Because government tariffs double the cost of sugar in the US.

    The FDA and USDA don’t send out swat teams because of the sharing of wholesome foods. They don’t want anyone breaking the rules, independent of whether the food is healthy or will make you sick.

  71. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Do you know why HFCS is used in Coke in the US? Because government tariffs double the cost of sugar in the US.

    The FDA and USDA don’t send out swat teams because of the sharing of wholesome foods. They don’t want anyone breaking the rules, independent of whether the food is healthy or will make you sick.

  72. Mr. Freemarket says:

    A chemical used as a foaming compound in some plastics isn’t the same as “plastic” in bread.

  73. Mr. Freemarket says:

    A chemical used as a foaming compound in some plastics isn’t the same as “plastic” in bread.

  74. Daniel says:

    In the UK, the Health and Safety Executive
    has identified azodicarbonamide as a respiratory sensitizer (a possible
    cause of asthma) in workplace settings and determined that containers
    of it should be labeled with “May cause sensitisation by inhalation.”[12] The World Health Organization
    has linked azodicarbonamide to “respiratory issues, allergies and
    asthma” for individuals at workplaces where azodicarbonamide is
    manufactured or handled in raw form. The available data are restricted
    to these occupational environments. Exposure of the general public to
    azodicarbonamide could not be evaluated because of the lack of available
    data.

    Admittedly, calling it plastic is a bit hyperbole, but there is a reason other nations don’t allow it.

  75. Daniel says:

    In the UK, the Health and Safety Executive
    has identified azodicarbonamide as a respiratory sensitizer (a possible
    cause of asthma) in workplace settings and determined that containers
    of it should be labeled with “May cause sensitisation by inhalation.”[12] The World Health Organization
    has linked azodicarbonamide to “respiratory issues, allergies and
    asthma” for individuals at workplaces where azodicarbonamide is
    manufactured or handled in raw form. The available data are restricted
    to these occupational environments. Exposure of the general public to
    azodicarbonamide could not be evaluated because of the lack of available
    data.

    Admittedly, calling it plastic is a bit hyperbole, but there is a reason other nations don’t allow it.

  76. Chel says:

    Hormones are typically a part of changing gender. But while I don’t have a study handy, I can report anecdotally that I felt much, much better even prior to starting them.

  77. Chel says:

    Hormones are typically a part of changing gender. But while I don’t have a study handy, I can report anecdotally that I felt much, much better even prior to starting them.

  78. Chel says:

    Ah, okay, I realize what you meant now. You meant “getting surgery” when you said “changing genders”.

    That’s a pretty big misnomer since the vast majority of trans people present as our identified genders publicly well-before surgery (since it’s a requirement that we do so for at least six months). It’s true that surgery shows less positive results than do hormone treatments, but so what?

  79. Chel says:

    Ah, okay, I realize what you meant now. You meant “getting surgery” when you said “changing genders”.

    That’s a pretty big misnomer since the vast majority of trans people present as our identified genders publicly well-before surgery (since it’s a requirement that we do so for at least six months). It’s true that surgery shows less positive results than do hormone treatments, but so what?

  80. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Because it is so dangerous, the use of azodicarbonamide is limited to 45 parts per million in dough.

    Chlorine is a deadly poison. Yet we sill use it to disinfect both our water supply as well as our swimming pools. Maybe dosage is important, eh?

  81. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Because it is so dangerous, the use of azodicarbonamide is limited to 45 parts per million in dough.

    Chlorine is a deadly poison. Yet we sill use it to disinfect both our water supply as well as our swimming pools. Maybe dosage is important, eh?

  82. Mr. Freemarket says:

    When people get a giant cancerous tumor removed from the side of their neck, they are elated that it is finally gone; now they can enjoy the rest of their life.

    When someone undergoes surgery to change the equipment that they were born with, apparently the psychological reaction isn’t “finally I really look like what I was supposed to be.” Instead it appears to be rather “ho-hum.” So “acting like a woman” by dressing up and taking hormones produces a much greater effect than actually “becoming a woman.”

    Seems odd.

  83. Mr. Freemarket says:

    When people get a giant cancerous tumor removed from the side of their neck, they are elated that it is finally gone; now they can enjoy the rest of their life.

    When someone undergoes surgery to change the equipment that they were born with, apparently the psychological reaction isn’t “finally I really look like what I was supposed to be.” Instead it appears to be rather “ho-hum.” So “acting like a woman” by dressing up and taking hormones produces a much greater effect than actually “becoming a woman.”

    Seems odd.

  84. Daniel says:

    1. It’s an unnecessary ingredient
    2. Sensitivities vary by individual (you know, like peanuts?) so the correct dosage is ZERO.

  85. Daniel says:

    1. It’s an unnecessary ingredient
    2. Sensitivities vary by individual (you know, like peanuts?) so the correct dosage is ZERO.

  86. Chel says:

    Speaking for myself, I really don’t think it makes sense to define gender by genitalia. I am for most medical purposes female now, regardless of whether I get surgery. Certainly I’ve noticed a lot of psychological difference: my instincts are subtly different with a few dramatic differences, my emotions have a different ‘flow’ to them, my libido has tanked.

  87. Chel says:

    Speaking for myself, I really don’t think it makes sense to define gender by genitalia. I am for most medical purposes female now, regardless of whether I get surgery. Certainly I’ve noticed a lot of psychological difference: my instincts are subtly different with a few dramatic differences, my emotions have a different ‘flow’ to them, my libido has tanked.

  88. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Yet there remain many differences between men and women. The elbow of a man is substantially different from that of a woman. The corpus callosum of a woman is three size than of a man’s; a woman’s brain operates differently than that of a man. A woman’s brain is able to multitask; and man’s brain is structurally more suited to single-tasking. I won’t even get into the issue of testosterone on muscle development.

    ” I am for most medical purposes female now”

    Really? Will your doctor be checking you for either cervical or ovarian cancer? Will you be needing a mammography to make sure that “the girls” are OK? Are you going to be needing supplementary calcium in your diet to prevent osteoporosis?

  89. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Yet there remain many differences between men and women. The elbow of a man is substantially different from that of a woman. The corpus callosum of a woman is three size than of a man’s; a woman’s brain operates differently than that of a man. A woman’s brain is able to multitask; and man’s brain is structurally more suited to single-tasking. I won’t even get into the issue of testosterone on muscle development.

    ” I am for most medical purposes female now”

    Really? Will your doctor be checking you for either cervical or ovarian cancer? Will you be needing a mammography to make sure that “the girls” are OK? Are you going to be needing supplementary calcium in your diet to prevent osteoporosis?


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