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May 24 2016

What They Sell Out When They Sell Out to Trump

Even in the world of politics, it is hard to find people less worthy of respect that those who understand what Trump is but sell out to him anyway:

RICK PERRY, JULY 22, 2015: “Let no one be mistaken — Donald Trump’s candidacy is a cancer on conservatism, and it must be clearly diagnosed, excised, and discarded. […] I will not go quiet when this cancer on conservatism threatens to metastasize into a movement of mean-spirited politics that will send the Republican party to the same place it sent the Whig Party in 1854: the graveyard.”

RICK PERRY, MAY 5, 2016: “He is not a perfect man. But what I do believe is he loves his country and he will surround himself with capable, experienced people and he will listen to them. . . . I believe in the process, and the process has said Donald Trump will be our nominee and I’m going to support him and help him and do what I can.”

First he acknowledges Trumpism as a cancer, then he proclaims his intention to help that cancer metastasize.

Not to single out Rick Perry…

Perry is far from alone in his hypocrisy. […T]he Republican aristocracy is for the most part bending its knee to the new king, proving that much of the “establishment” is exactly as craven as Trump always claimed.

Already the long knives are out for those who won’t sell out their conservative principles and knuckle under to Trump.

The litmus test in the new Republican party boils down to loyalty, not to a principle or conviction, but to a man: Trump.

It’s a cult of personality, pure and simple. One cannot even agree with Trump on his “policies,” because that is like committing to the blob in a lava lamp. …

The GOP platform can now be written on a bumper sticker: “In Trump We Trust.”

There is a word for a hyper-nationalist, authoritarian political system organized around a fetishized strongman who ignores rule of law in order to “get things done”: fascism. The word has been overused as a pejorative for decades, but here it literally applies. Trump may be a liberal Democrat by inclination, but he is running as a fascist.

Trump made this explicit during the debates, when he declared that he would force agents of the US government to torture and murder in violation of the law:

No American president would talk this way. Trump isn’t running for president; he is running for dictator. To support him is to support rejecting our mode of government in favor of the one we defeated in WWII.

Establishment apparatchiks are wrong to demand that we vote for Trump out of party loyalty. Party loyalty calls for defending the GOP from those who are hijacking it for their own malevolent purposes, not siding with them after they strong-arm their way into the cockpit. Americans should have higher loyalties than to a party anyway.

If Trump is elected after promising to violate the law, to torture, to murder, and to suppress political dissent, he will have a mandate to do so. Even if he never acts on that mandate, this will never again be the same country once the mandate has been granted.

Once Trump has been licensed to rule as an autocrat, other autocrats will follow. Restraints on tyranny are easy to discard but very difficult to reinstitute.


On tips from Torcer.

50 Responses to “What They Sell Out When They Sell Out to Trump”

  1. Bill Fairweather says:

    Trump isn’t the first autocrat. Prhaps the most blatant about it on the campaign trail is all. After all, the phrase “I’ve got a phone and a pen” should still be fresh in our collective memories.

  2. Tom says:

    So look at it this way…If you align yourselves against Trump, who are you also aligning yourselves against? Who are you also lining up to oppose this election season?
    Well, so far it means you are opposing the NRA, the cops, the Border Patrol, the coal industry, and the military. As time passes and more and more “mainstream America” groups come out in support of Trump, you will find yourselves more and more in opposition to more and more of your friends and neighbors.

    At what point do you say – grudgingly, and with perhaps some reservations – “The prospect of a Hillary presidency is too awful and destructive to allow to happen to America…I will hold my nose and affirm my support for the cops, the military, the NRA, the concept that America is a great nation instead of the root of all the world’s troubles, a nation whose borders are worth defending, and vote for Trump”?

  3. mauser 98 says:

    if you bitched like this in 2008 and 12………
    where was your army of reporters investigating Barry?
    thought so ….crickets

  4. JeffersonSpinningInGrave says:

    “First he acknowledges Trumpism as a cancer, then he proclaims his intention
    to help that cancer metastasize.”

    Politics. Ever thus. Not pretty, but pretty standard.

  5. mauser 98 says:

    what is Obama’s real legal name?

  6. JeffersonSpinningInGrave says:

    Needed more. Still, despite the systematic cover-up, plenty of information on Obama was available for anyone to know exactly what his is, for anyone who cared to see it.

  7. JeffersonSpinningInGrave says:

    ‘”I’ve got a phone and a pen” should still be fresh in our collective memories.’

    It should be. It’s still going on, and it isn’t over yet. By a long shot.

  8. mauser 98 says:

    really…here’s a few you can answer

    Obama records which have not been released

    Obama/Dunham marriage license

    Obama/Dunham divorce documents

    Passport records

    Record of Baptism — Not released or ‘not available’

    Certified Copy of Original Birth certificate — Not released

    Adoption records

    Obama kindergarten records

    Punahou School records

    Occidental College records and transcripts — Not released

    Columbia University records and transcripts — Not released

    Columbia Thesis paper — ‘not available

    Harvard University records and transcripts – Not released

    Harvard Law Review articles published — None

    Medical records — Not released

    Illinois State Bar Association records

    Illinois State Senate schedule — ‘said to be lost’

    Illinois State Senate records — ‘said to be lost’

    University of Chicago scholarly articles — None

  9. JeffersonSpinningInGrave says:

    Oh, no arguments that he’s the most secretive President in history. It’s still true, however, that just based on what is known (the people with whom he associated himself, the organizations with which he has been known to work, many of his own statements), there was plenty enough information to know he is a radical leftist who hates America. I knew. Many others knew. If we did, anyone could have if they cared to make the effort.

  10. mauser 98 says:

    so he gets a pass and Trump does not?
    if Barry was investigated 5% as much as Palin he never would have been POTUS

  11. JeffersonSpinningInGrave says:

    I don’t think anyone should get a pass. But if you are looking for a place to lay the failure to vet Obama or the active cover-up that would have made a proper vetting difficult even if the MSM had the will…I’m thinking this isn’t the place to lay that blame.

  12. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Apparently you are new to Moonbattery.

  13. mauser 98 says:

    you get the government you deserve

  14. MAS says:

    No, everyone gets the government the stupid majority deserves.

  15. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Unfortunately Obama is not running for re-election in 2016. He may step down; he may not step down, but the ship to investigate and discredit Obama has long since sailed.

    In a similar manner, the opportunity to nominate a conservative to represent the GOP has, likewise, sailed.

    As a result, we are left with the choice of voting for a New York liberal, or a New York liberal.

  16. mauser 98 says:

    no… just can’t get past the hypocricy

  17. mauser 98 says:

    if he was running every one would roll over and play dead

  18. Occam's Stubble says:

    Dave, are you just now discovering that politicians are opportunistic whores? Dude, it’s always sad when the bubble bursts.

    Perry wants to be VP. I hope Trump picks him since Trump is going to need someone who knows WTF they’re doing nearby at all times.

  19. Mr. Freemarket says:

    If you believe that Moonbattery gave a pass to Barack Obama, John McCain, or Mitt Romney, you are either ignoring what has been posted here, are willfully forgetting it, or have a medical condition that anti-Alzheimers drugs might be able to treat.

  20. MAS says:

    Maybe you just can’t understand those who chose to stand on principles rather than pragmatism.

  21. MAS says:

    Oops responded to a “Deal with it” troll in error.

  22. mauser 98 says:

    McCain Romney took a dive
    no …i have the most powerful brain in the universe

  23. mauser 98 says:

    Huma for VP?

  24. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Because opposing Obama is racist.

  25. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Both Trump and Obama would disagree with your second statement.

  26. mauser 98 says:

    not Hill?

  27. Mr. Freemarket says:

    To even think you are as smart as Hillary proves that you hate women.

  28. mauser 98 says:

    OK ……ya got me there

  29. MAS says:

    “Deal with it”


  30. JeffersonSpinningInGrave says:

    And just think, if she doesn’t get indicted for public corruption (I’d really like to know what e-mails the FBI recovered, and if they peg her or pay for play), the Russians, Chinese, North Koreans, and Iranians all have complete copies of her e-mails, I’m sure. They can all black mail her. Not that they’d need to, when they could just chip a million or so to the Clinton Foundation of pay Bill 750K to come give a speech.

  31. MAS says:

    Amazing to see those whose principles are so readily sacrificed on the altar of pragmatism. They will never be able to understand those of us who refuse to sell our souls to the gods of political compromise (in its various forms and applications). As always, follow the money to find the power.

  32. jack burns says:

    Sounds like irrelevance is very painful. Enjoy your principles.

  33. mauser 98 says:

    “you first” sucker

  34. Occam's Stubble says:

    The time to vote your principles is the primary. In the general, you vote your best interests.

  35. Bob Elfers says:

    I hope Trump gets to use that pen as a bludgeon against Pelosi et al before congress gets motivated to lock it down for good. Which they should.

  36. MAS says:

    “Deal with it”

  37. grayjohn says:

    They all all phonies and sellouts. ALL.

  38. Artfuldgr says:

    Is there one example of an autocrat capitalist leader?
    how about a dictator in socialism?
    oligharch in communism?

  39. Artfuldgr says:

    An Arkansas transplant is not a ny liberal…
    and if you think donating to the party you need to bribe in nyc to get things done, well, then you have no idea of nyc… (the nyc liberals HATE trump, so he is not one of them!)

  40. Artfuldgr says:

    the assumption that Trump will be bad vs the others is silly..

    He has ALWAYS loved his family name, and his family name has NEVER stood for what he is maligned with. Given he is a narcisist, would he really want his name dragged in the mud by not doing what positives he can?

    doubt it…

    People who do bad things tend to not want their name on it, credit for it, or much else… they are willing to scoop of the cream, but not the rot…

  41. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Technically Hillary is a Chicago liberal, transplanted for a time to Arkansas.

    Here’s the thing about being a rich guy like Trump (who is the son of a rich guy). Nobody forced him to live and work in NYC. That was his choice. No one forced him to undertake real-estate development in NYC; again his choice.

    You are arguing that you support a guy who makes payments to the mob in order to get things done. A man of principle a) doesn’t engage in business with the mob, and b) doesn’t have to have others apologize for his business practices.

  42. MicahStone says:

    In “inner” Trump – it’s just what you’d expect !!!

  43. 762x51 says:

    Of course the Progressive Republican establishment sold out to tRump,. A four year old could see that coming. They don’t care as long as they can keep their power and money. So now the we will have the same GOPee jackasses doing the same Progressive sellout things that has everyone so pissed off, except the Trumpanzees who will accept it because their cult leader will be at the top of the heap, “fighting for them”, gag.


  44. 762x51 says:

    From a place you will not see, comes a sound you will not hear.

  45. 762x51 says:

    Just another Trumpanzee troll come to stink up the place. We went through ALL that Obama crap back in 2007-2008, this turd in the punch bowl has only been around since 2013,

  46. 762x51 says:

    Listen to what the Trumpanzees are spewing. They WANT tRump to go the “pen and phone” route. After eight damn years of fascism from Comrade Chairman Obama, these assholes want to double down on totalitarian rule, as long as it their boy doing the ruling.

    I can’t fix that level of stupid, but I can eliminate it.

  47. jack burns says:


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