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Jun 13 2016

What Would Have Happened If Omar Mateen Had Not Had Access to Firearms

As previously noted, Omar Mateen would have been able to get ahold of guns even if regular citizens were forbidden from doing so, just like his colleagues in Paris did. But what if we had a regime so totalitarian that not even employees of a security company like Mateen could exercise their right to bear arms? What would have happened in Orlando then? Happy Land is what would have happened:

[On March 25, 1990], what was then the biggest mass murder in U.S. history turned a New York City dance club into a smoky, flame-filled inferno that left dozens of people dead, some with drinks still clutched in their hands.

That night, a Cuban refugee named Julio Gonzalez tried to win back the woman who had spurned him.

Gonzalez entered the Happy Land social club in the Bronx, which was humming with mostly immigrants partying and dancing. His former live-in girlfriend, Lydia Feliciano, was checking coats and they had a violent argument. Gonzalez was thrown out.

In a rage, he returned just after 3 a.m., splashing gasoline on Happy Land’s only exit and lighting two matches. Then he pulled down the metal front gate.

Within minutes, 87 people were dead.

That tops Mateen’s kill count by 38, and Gonzalez even lived to brag about it (so far at least he has been denied parole). For all we know, Gonzalez will die imagining that the Devil will reward him with never-ending sex in the afterlife, just like Mateen.

happy-land-social-club-fire
No guns required.

On a tip from Manuel R.



21 Responses to “What Would Have Happened If Omar Mateen Had Not Had Access to Firearms”

  1. Jack says:

    How does a Muslim who has been on the FBI radar buy an assault weapons without some red flag going up? It is because the President and the Director of the FBI now serve Islam, and have compromised the entire country with their treason.

  2. Torcer says:

    Dan Bongino BLASTS Obama for trying to get ‘SICK political advantage’ from Orlando massacre http://therightscoop.com/dan-bongino-blasts-obama-for-trying-to-get-sick-political-advantage-from-orlando-massacre/

  3. Torcer says:

    Never let a good crisis go to waste:

    PIERS: Time for Trump & the NRA to show whose side they’re on http://dailym.ai/1YlGPiK via @MailOnline

    Senate Democrats Renew Push to Keep Terror Suspects From Buying Guns
    http://www.rollcall.com/news/policy/senate-democrats-renew-push-keep-terrorists-buying-guns

    Except:
    Democrats: Banning Gun Sales To People On A List The Orlando Shooter Was NOT ON Will Stop Shootings | RedState http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2016/06/13/democrats-banning-gun-sales-people-list-orlando-shooter-will-stop-shootings/

  4. Torcer says:

    Yes, and if they manage to force through the due-process free evisceration of one’s Constitutional rights, you can easily guess who will be on ‘the list’ and who won’t..

  5. Torcer says:

    WOW. The Orlando Shooter Was Employed By A Department Of Homeland Security Contractor | RedState http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2016/06/13/wow.-orlando-shooter-employed-department-homeland-security-contractor/

  6. Torcer says:

    Make no mistake – the national Socialist Left’s ultimate goal is Confiscation:

    “Yes conservatives, we want to take away your guns…”
    Saturday Mar 24, 2012 1:43 AM Dailykos
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/24/1077374/-Yes-conservatives-we-want-to-take-away-your-guns

    MSNBC’s Ed Schultz Talks Gun ‘Confiscation’
    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/dan-gainor/2012/12/16/msnbc-s-ed-schultz-talks-gun-confiscation

    Mr. Cuomo, speaking on WGDJ-AM, said: “Confiscation could be an option.”
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/21/nyregion/cuomo-says-he-will-outline-gun-measures-next-month.html?_r=1&

    “Ban, seize semi-auto weapons”State Rep. Dan Muhlbauer, D-Manilla December 19, 2012
    http://carrollspaper.com/Content/Local-News-Archive/Local-News/Article/Muhlbauer-Ban-seize-semi-auto-weapons/1/1/14934

    ‘Turn in your guns’ Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Texas) December 19, 2012,http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/273753-house-dem-calls-on-people-to-turn-in-your-guns

    “If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States, for an outright ban, picking up [every gun]… Mr. and Mrs. America, turn ‘em all in.”Diane Feinstein on Gun Control “Turn ‘Em All In!”
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-b45FdDN3s&feature=player_detailpage
    Published on Jan 18, 2013

    “A couple of decades ago, Australia had a mass shooting similar to Columbine or Newtown. And Australia just said, well, that’s it — we’re not seeing that again. And basically imposed very severe, tough gun laws.” Obama June 10, 2014

    You say gun control doesn’t work? Fine. Let’s ban guns altogether. http://fw.to/q3NgAlk LA Times May 28, 2014

    “We know that other countries, in response to one mass shooting, have been able to craft laws that almost eliminate mass shootings. Friends of ours, allies of ours — Great Britain, Australia, countries like ours. So we know there are ways to prevent it.” Obama October 01, 2015

    Effective Gun Control – A National Semi-Auto Ban
    Monday Oct 05, 2015 Dailykos http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/5/1427845/-Effective-Gun-Control-A-National-Semi-Auto-Ban</blockquote

    “In the Australian example, as I recall, that was a buyback program.”…..“I think it would be worth considering doing it on the national level” Hillary Clinton October 16 2015
    http://www.c-span.org/video/?328774-1/hillary-clinton-town-hall-meeting-keene-new-hampshire&start=2831

    A gun-free societyThe Washington Post October 2015 http://wapo.st/1LrJxz3

    Yes, They Want to Take Your Guns Away The Daily Beast November 2015 http://thebea.st/1HmJOfM

    End the Gun Epidemic in AmericaThe New York Times December 5, 2015 [First Front Page Editorial In 95 Years] http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/end-the-gun-epidemic-in-america/ar-AAg2dhB?

    We don’t need gun control. We need domestic disarmament Huffingtonpost December 7,2015 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/amitai-etzioni/needed-domestic-disarmame_b_8739712.html

    It’s Time to Ban Guns. Yes, All of Them.
    https://newrepublic.com/article/125498/its-time-ban-guns-yes-them
    December 10, 2015

  7. Torcer says:

    Keep in mind the Gun grabbers guide to shootings:

    PREVENTING GUN VIOLENCE THROUGH EFFECTIVE MESSAGING
    HIGH-PROFILE GUN VIOLENCE INCIDENTS
    OVERVIEW
    #1:DON’T HESITATE TO SPEAK OUT.
    The truth is, the most powerful time to communicate is when concern and emotions are running at their peak.
    #3:DON’T ASSUME THE FACTS – AND DON’T WAIT FOR THEM
    Experience tells us that the specific facts of a high-profile gun incident are revealed over time. If we jump to conclusions about those details, we could find ourselves at odds with reality as events unfold.
    So, the smartest thing to do is avoid linking our message and arguments to any one set of partially-revealed facts.
    #8:DON’T LET POLICYSPEAK DRAIN THE EMOTION FROM THE MOMENT.
    There is often a compelling case to be made for immediate action, pivoting from the emotion of a high-profile incident to calls for legislative action or specific policy changes. Those who seek to make that pivot have to be careful not to drain the emotional power out of the moment. An emotionally-driven conversation about what can be done to prevent incidents such as the one at hand is engaging.

    http://gunssavelives.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Gun-ViolenceMessaging-Guide-PDF-1.pdf

  8. MicahStone says:

    OBOZO and the lunatic-left extremists are guiding both trains to create an Alinsky-inspired cataclysmic disruption of our society so they can further reduce or eliminate freedoms of American and move America closer to their goal of a fascist totalitarian state. Leftists abhor the Judeo-Christian foundation of America (which help produce its greatness and exceptionalism) and will do whatever it takes to destroy it.

  9. glock says:

    Their were good guys with guns(police) on scene as nra wants and couldn’t stop it. Maybe a good guy with a gun could stop wayne la pierre.

  10. rambler says:

    There are dozens of ways to have killed lots of people without using a gun. There are people who are under the illusion that laws and gov will protect them. The gov is leveraging that belief to get the focus on guns to control the guns and eventually the population. We have a group of people telling us that they want us dead and our gov is focused on everything except the people who have said they want us dead.

  11. KHarn says:

    “Assault weapons” don’t exist. NO ONE has ever been able to define them. There have been some people (Who should have known better) that have used the term, but they were wrong.

  12. KHarn says:

    Does your mommy and daddy know you’re visiting a grown-ups’ site?

  13. Donna M says:

    When the key motivation and concern is to meet an objective, to cause fear, chaos, death and destruction…
    The vehicle by which it is accomplished, is only a SECONDARY CONCERN!!!

  14. Donna M says:

    Funny, how coincidental!
    That this happens after the Wormwood and the prog-left…
    Enforce by mandate, to “spread” the “new” social order, reengineering madate!

  15. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Question:
    What stopped the good guys with guns from stopping the massacre earlier? Were they waiting for permission to enter the premises?
    Were they waiting for the firing to stop so that they could safely enter?
    Did they just hate gays and agree with the murderer killing them?
    Did they just not spend enough time at the gun range honing their skills?

  16. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Unfortunately only a few democrats (like Bernie Sanders) believe in banning all gasoline.

    BTW….if you ban gasoline, paint thinner will do.
    If you ban paint thinner, you can have some fun with a propane tank.

  17. Torcer says:

    Senate Dems: This is a perfect time to take up gun control again – Hot Air http://hotair.com/archives/2016/06/13/senate-dems-this-is-a-perfect-time-to-take-up-gun-control-again/

    If words can’t sell American citizens on gun control, maybe this ‘bold art installation’ can http://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2016/06/13/if-words-cant-sell-american-citizens-on-gun-control-maybe-this-bold-art-installation-can/ via @twitchyteam

    Watch out! Tough guy Alan Grayson has some tough words for the NRA http://twitchy.com/sd-3133/2016/06/13/watch-out-tough-guy-alan-grayson-has-some-tough-words-for-the-nra/ via @twitchyteam

    Another Shooting Tragedy in a Gun-Free Zone | Daniel J. Mitchell http://fee.org/articles/another-shooting-tragedy-in-a-gun-free-zone/ via @feeonline

    Our First Instincts Make Bad Permanent Policies | Ilya Somin http://fee.org/articles/our-first-instincts-make-bad-permanent-policies/ via @feeonline

    Would An Assault Weapon Ban Have Stopped The Terror Attack In Orlando? http://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/06/12/assault-weapon-ban-stopped-terror-attack-orlando/ via @BearingArmsCom

  18. Tadpole says:

    Its is almost impossible to get a gun in the EU – even an air-rifle. This is the situation the anti-gun folks would be aiming for in the US – the virtual elimination of guns in the culture.

    Did that stop the Paris and Brussels massacres?

  19. MAS says:

    This club had at least two strikes against it IMO;
    1-Gun free zone.
    2-Sodomite gathering place.

    Nope, stay away at all costs…

  20. Jester says:

    Or he would have used pressure cooker bombs like the already conveniently forgotten Boston Marathon bombers did, to much greater effect.


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